For a few weeks now I’ve been working on some theories with “Lost” and where it will go in season six. I’ve decided to share them with you.
Now that we have the new information that the two “sides” are Jacob and another unidentified man things have changed. Prior to this the conflict in the show (“two sides-one light, one dark”) appeared to be the Losties and the others; then the others and Dharma; and then Ben and Widmore.
I think in the finale we are given some clues as to where the show will go in the sixth season. It begins with Flocke and Jacob and the possible arrival of the Black Rock and ends with the death of Jacob. This signifies the beginning and end of the game.
When our friends were going back through time, they went as far as to see the statue before it was damaged. At first this seemed like they went back really far in time, but now we know that in the 1800’s, the statue was intact. I think this marks the beginning of this level or session of the game. And the Losties were not able to travel further back or further ahead in time than this particular game. (From 1800’s to 2008-09 when it ends.)
Jacob and Flocke seem alone on the island at this point with Flocke being annoyed that Jacob is bringing more people to the island and thus starting the game again. They have been playing this out for centuries-people come, they corrupt etc. Flocke is tired of the game, but here is Jacob pulling the board back out and starting it up again. It’s no wonder he wants to kill Jacob.
(Disclaimer: of course any theories I make now can be blown to bits within five minutes of the season six premiere. That’s part of the brilliance of this show. No matter how much we speculate we won’t come up with exactly what they have planned because they haven’t shown us everything.)
The big reveal of Jacob’s foe or Flocke changes many things. At times the “island” seemed to be acting in contrary ways. Looking at this as a game between two powerful entities on the island makes some things make more sense. (This leads to a rewatch to see which force was influencing which event.) For example something that has bothered me since last year’s finale is why the island didn’t try to delay Ben turning the wheel for just a few more minutes if it didn’t want the O6 to leave. The helicopter was on its way back and in a short time they would have been there when the island moved.
So, let’s say Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sun and Sayid were not supposed to leave the island and were supposed to be time tripping with the others. (I think Jack’s appendicitis was also an attempt to keep him on the island.) Flocke through Christian has Ben move the island leaving the Oceanic 6 to die in the ocean. BUT the only one who can change things-Desmond made a phone call resulting in his girlfriend showing up to rescue them all. Not what Flocke wanted and this keeps the Oceanic 6 “in play”.
Widmore and Hawking see them back in “real life” knowing that they already met them in 1977. As a “course correction”, the Oceanic 6 are talked into going on another flight. When they get close to the island, it senses them, and wham-they are back in 1977, just like their friends. Well, that is except Sun. I think Sun didn’t get snatched from the plane because if she had stayed on the island, being pregnant, she would have died and not have been a factor in the events of 1977 anyway. (The time jumping alone could possibly have been fatal to a pregnant woman.)
But with the flash of Ajira 316, Jack, Kate, Sayid and Hurley are “where they are supposed to be” and end up blowing the hatch and causing the incident. If they weren’t there, Sawyer, Juliet, Jin and Miles may have just lived on happily in Dharma times. When Daniel returns with his mission, he might only have had Miles to help him, but it seems Miles wasn’t interested at all. The idea of detonating the bomb may have died with Daniel.
It was important for the incident to happen (I’m a believer in WHH) and this is why they had to go back to the island “to save” everyone. They will next flash to the present (2007/2008) and be ready to join in the final battle. When Jacob touched each of them, I think he was giving them something to allow him to draw them to him, when he needs them most. (I’m not sure about Juliet and if Sayid will survive his wound. But in a war you need soldiers and doctors!)
I think the three time periods featured in the finale could be linked in some way meaning the incident, will effect 1977 and 2007/2008 and also the arrival of the Black Rock. The island may be rocked (ha!) and moved again, leaving the ship in the jungle and destroying the statue. (No real reason for this other than it would be a nice way to tie them together.)
The rest of what season 6 will feature is all my pure speculation.
Season 6: An eye (complete with eye liner) opens. Richard is lying in the jungle. He runs and comes upon the wreck of his ship in the middle of the island. We learn about him and his survivors which leads to learning how Widmore and Hawking were on the island. Perhaps they are descendants of the Black Rock or they were shipwrecked later.
Just who the others are is one of the last big mysteries to be revealed. Are they made up of descendants of this ship or are they a mixture of people brought to the island? (Perhaps when they started reproducing, Flocke did something to keep them from having more children to limit the amount of players in the game.)
We only know this group was on the island in 1954 and not really how long they have been there. What is their religion? How do they know about Jacob? And do they know about Flocke? They don’t seem to. Even Ben and Richard don’t seem to worry about another force on the island.
What do we know about them?
• They speak Latin.
• They have a book of laws. (strangely this was an English and not Latin book.)
• When they die, they burn their bodies. (Remember Colleen’s funeral? They all wore white shirts that were very similar to what Jacob wore at the beginning of the finale. Do they burn the bodies so they can’t be used by Flocke?)
• They follow Jacob’s word without question.
• They are not allowed to kill each other.
• They don’t like others living on or exploiting the island.
• Richard has been around for a long time. He is a type of gate keeper for Jacob and somehow that job comes with the perk of being ageless.
From what we have seen, it doesn’t seem they are given many choices but follow orders. Their way of life is based on doing what Jacob wants which leads me to think that instead of following Jacob, they have actually been following Flocke’s directions. Them not being aware (although they could be and we just haven’t seen it) of a second entity on the island is a dangerous thing. Yet, Jacob, like God, seems to stand back and let things play out while the devil takes a more direct approach by trying to influence people.
The change from black with white letters to white with black letters has nothing to do with the incident but indicates a change in leadership or control. With Floke in control of the island, things will change and be dismal and dark. The final season will try to put Jacob back in his place.
Many agree that Jacob didn’t fight back, or seemed to go along with his assassination. It is part of his plan. If the two are really arguing about whether we have a choice or simply if given a choice we will make the right one, wouldn’t Jacob remove himself from the game and let things play out to possibly prove his point?
Perhaps the “progress” he’s talking about will be his “chosen ones” making the right choice and not fighting at all.
The final battle: we can speculate that if Lost is truly like the Chronicles of Narnia, than Jacob will rise again just as Aslan did. I see Ben as being like Edmund, a traitor that leads to the death of the God like being. But perhaps Jacob, like Aslan, knows of the “deep magic” or loop hole that will bring allow him to come back. In “The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe”, Aslan also brings back many creatures that were turned to stone by the White Witch. Could this mean that some of Lost’s dead will return for the battle as well?
In the season 1 episode “Hearts and Minds”, Jack asked Charlie what he thought of Locke.
Charlie at first makes a smart comment then says “if there is one person on this island I would put my absolute faith in to save us all, it would be John Locke”. Interesting choice of words to describe someone that we last saw lying in the shadow of the statue!
I think this war will have to involve the real John Locke and I do think somehow he will rise again-possibly as the new Jacob. Before I could finish my theory and post it-someone else posted my idea that the last scene of Lost could be two different people sitting on the beach with a more modern ship on the horizon and the same conversation. I first thought this could be Locke and Walt because he was also categorized as “special”. This would also be interesting with Locke being the one to explain the game of backgammon to Walt with the emphasis on how old the game is in the pilot episode.
But I think it would be more natural (at least at this point) to see Locke sitting on the beach and Jack approaching. It’s easy to imagine Jack saying to him “do you have any idea how badly I want to kill you?”
In “Hearts and Minds” Jack actually walks up to Locke who is sitting, staring out into the ocean. Yes, this could happen to any of the characters at any time in the series, but what was interesting was the conversation.
Jack: Any ships yet?
Locke: Not yet but I’m patient.
Jack: Mind if I join you?
Yikes! Is this foreshadowing a scene yet to come????
Probably not. If I can figure it out, it can’t possibly happen on the show. Again we don’t have all the pieces to really come to the right conclusions to what is going on. But isn’t it amazing fun to speculate???
Something I don’t want to see is Juliet appearing in a different part of the island from the others and not really returning to the show until midway in the season when Sawyer and Kate have already rekindled their romance. Enough with the soap opera quadrangle. Please don’t let this happen!
Something else I hope we don’t see in season 6-Charlie (Hume not Pace), was taken from the hospital while waiting for his parents and put on the Ajira flight. Although this would lead to Desmond returning to the island in search of his son, I really don’t want to see any of the kids (Aaron or Ji Yeon) in danger. Well, we actually last saw Aaron alone in an hotel room . . . maybe someone took him as well before his grandmother got there.
For a bit of humor-imagine that after the blast of the incident, not only do the Losties wake up in another time line, they wake up in the hatch, naked and they have all become DESMOND!
“What happened brother?”
“I don’t know brother?”
“Where are we brother?”
“Wo! I’m not entering the numbers again brother, I mean dude.”
I really didn’t intend this to be this long. Thanks to anyone who made it this far. Now I’m beginning to understand that if I start talking about Lost, people avoid me.
Now that we have the new information that the two “sides” are Jacob and another unidentified man things have changed. Prior to this the conflict in the show (“two sides-one light, one dark”) appeared to be the Losties and the others; then the others and Dharma; and then Ben and Widmore.
I think in the finale we are given some clues as to where the show will go in the sixth season. It begins with Flocke and Jacob and the possible arrival of the Black Rock and ends with the death of Jacob. This signifies the beginning and end of the game.
When our friends were going back through time, they went as far as to see the statue before it was damaged. At first this seemed like they went back really far in time, but now we know that in the 1800’s, the statue was intact. I think this marks the beginning of this level or session of the game. And the Losties were not able to travel further back or further ahead in time than this particular game. (From 1800’s to 2008-09 when it ends.)
Jacob and Flocke seem alone on the island at this point with Flocke being annoyed that Jacob is bringing more people to the island and thus starting the game again. They have been playing this out for centuries-people come, they corrupt etc. Flocke is tired of the game, but here is Jacob pulling the board back out and starting it up again. It’s no wonder he wants to kill Jacob.
(Disclaimer: of course any theories I make now can be blown to bits within five minutes of the season six premiere. That’s part of the brilliance of this show. No matter how much we speculate we won’t come up with exactly what they have planned because they haven’t shown us everything.)
The big reveal of Jacob’s foe or Flocke changes many things. At times the “island” seemed to be acting in contrary ways. Looking at this as a game between two powerful entities on the island makes some things make more sense. (This leads to a rewatch to see which force was influencing which event.) For example something that has bothered me since last year’s finale is why the island didn’t try to delay Ben turning the wheel for just a few more minutes if it didn’t want the O6 to leave. The helicopter was on its way back and in a short time they would have been there when the island moved.
So, let’s say Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sun and Sayid were not supposed to leave the island and were supposed to be time tripping with the others. (I think Jack’s appendicitis was also an attempt to keep him on the island.) Flocke through Christian has Ben move the island leaving the Oceanic 6 to die in the ocean. BUT the only one who can change things-Desmond made a phone call resulting in his girlfriend showing up to rescue them all. Not what Flocke wanted and this keeps the Oceanic 6 “in play”.
Widmore and Hawking see them back in “real life” knowing that they already met them in 1977. As a “course correction”, the Oceanic 6 are talked into going on another flight. When they get close to the island, it senses them, and wham-they are back in 1977, just like their friends. Well, that is except Sun. I think Sun didn’t get snatched from the plane because if she had stayed on the island, being pregnant, she would have died and not have been a factor in the events of 1977 anyway. (The time jumping alone could possibly have been fatal to a pregnant woman.)
But with the flash of Ajira 316, Jack, Kate, Sayid and Hurley are “where they are supposed to be” and end up blowing the hatch and causing the incident. If they weren’t there, Sawyer, Juliet, Jin and Miles may have just lived on happily in Dharma times. When Daniel returns with his mission, he might only have had Miles to help him, but it seems Miles wasn’t interested at all. The idea of detonating the bomb may have died with Daniel.
It was important for the incident to happen (I’m a believer in WHH) and this is why they had to go back to the island “to save” everyone. They will next flash to the present (2007/2008) and be ready to join in the final battle. When Jacob touched each of them, I think he was giving them something to allow him to draw them to him, when he needs them most. (I’m not sure about Juliet and if Sayid will survive his wound. But in a war you need soldiers and doctors!)
I think the three time periods featured in the finale could be linked in some way meaning the incident, will effect 1977 and 2007/2008 and also the arrival of the Black Rock. The island may be rocked (ha!) and moved again, leaving the ship in the jungle and destroying the statue. (No real reason for this other than it would be a nice way to tie them together.)
The rest of what season 6 will feature is all my pure speculation.
Season 6: An eye (complete with eye liner) opens. Richard is lying in the jungle. He runs and comes upon the wreck of his ship in the middle of the island. We learn about him and his survivors which leads to learning how Widmore and Hawking were on the island. Perhaps they are descendants of the Black Rock or they were shipwrecked later.
Just who the others are is one of the last big mysteries to be revealed. Are they made up of descendants of this ship or are they a mixture of people brought to the island? (Perhaps when they started reproducing, Flocke did something to keep them from having more children to limit the amount of players in the game.)
We only know this group was on the island in 1954 and not really how long they have been there. What is their religion? How do they know about Jacob? And do they know about Flocke? They don’t seem to. Even Ben and Richard don’t seem to worry about another force on the island.
What do we know about them?
• They speak Latin.
• They have a book of laws. (strangely this was an English and not Latin book.)
• When they die, they burn their bodies. (Remember Colleen’s funeral? They all wore white shirts that were very similar to what Jacob wore at the beginning of the finale. Do they burn the bodies so they can’t be used by Flocke?)
• They follow Jacob’s word without question.
• They are not allowed to kill each other.
• They don’t like others living on or exploiting the island.
• Richard has been around for a long time. He is a type of gate keeper for Jacob and somehow that job comes with the perk of being ageless.
From what we have seen, it doesn’t seem they are given many choices but follow orders. Their way of life is based on doing what Jacob wants which leads me to think that instead of following Jacob, they have actually been following Flocke’s directions. Them not being aware (although they could be and we just haven’t seen it) of a second entity on the island is a dangerous thing. Yet, Jacob, like God, seems to stand back and let things play out while the devil takes a more direct approach by trying to influence people.
The change from black with white letters to white with black letters has nothing to do with the incident but indicates a change in leadership or control. With Floke in control of the island, things will change and be dismal and dark. The final season will try to put Jacob back in his place.
Many agree that Jacob didn’t fight back, or seemed to go along with his assassination. It is part of his plan. If the two are really arguing about whether we have a choice or simply if given a choice we will make the right one, wouldn’t Jacob remove himself from the game and let things play out to possibly prove his point?
Perhaps the “progress” he’s talking about will be his “chosen ones” making the right choice and not fighting at all.
The final battle: we can speculate that if Lost is truly like the Chronicles of Narnia, than Jacob will rise again just as Aslan did. I see Ben as being like Edmund, a traitor that leads to the death of the God like being. But perhaps Jacob, like Aslan, knows of the “deep magic” or loop hole that will bring allow him to come back. In “The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe”, Aslan also brings back many creatures that were turned to stone by the White Witch. Could this mean that some of Lost’s dead will return for the battle as well?
In the season 1 episode “Hearts and Minds”, Jack asked Charlie what he thought of Locke.
Charlie at first makes a smart comment then says “if there is one person on this island I would put my absolute faith in to save us all, it would be John Locke”. Interesting choice of words to describe someone that we last saw lying in the shadow of the statue!
I think this war will have to involve the real John Locke and I do think somehow he will rise again-possibly as the new Jacob. Before I could finish my theory and post it-someone else posted my idea that the last scene of Lost could be two different people sitting on the beach with a more modern ship on the horizon and the same conversation. I first thought this could be Locke and Walt because he was also categorized as “special”. This would also be interesting with Locke being the one to explain the game of backgammon to Walt with the emphasis on how old the game is in the pilot episode.
But I think it would be more natural (at least at this point) to see Locke sitting on the beach and Jack approaching. It’s easy to imagine Jack saying to him “do you have any idea how badly I want to kill you?”
In “Hearts and Minds” Jack actually walks up to Locke who is sitting, staring out into the ocean. Yes, this could happen to any of the characters at any time in the series, but what was interesting was the conversation.
Jack: Any ships yet?
Locke: Not yet but I’m patient.
Jack: Mind if I join you?
Yikes! Is this foreshadowing a scene yet to come????
Probably not. If I can figure it out, it can’t possibly happen on the show. Again we don’t have all the pieces to really come to the right conclusions to what is going on. But isn’t it amazing fun to speculate???
Something I don’t want to see is Juliet appearing in a different part of the island from the others and not really returning to the show until midway in the season when Sawyer and Kate have already rekindled their romance. Enough with the soap opera quadrangle. Please don’t let this happen!
Something else I hope we don’t see in season 6-Charlie (Hume not Pace), was taken from the hospital while waiting for his parents and put on the Ajira flight. Although this would lead to Desmond returning to the island in search of his son, I really don’t want to see any of the kids (Aaron or Ji Yeon) in danger. Well, we actually last saw Aaron alone in an hotel room . . . maybe someone took him as well before his grandmother got there.
For a bit of humor-imagine that after the blast of the incident, not only do the Losties wake up in another time line, they wake up in the hatch, naked and they have all become DESMOND!
“What happened brother?”
“I don’t know brother?”
“Where are we brother?”
“Wo! I’m not entering the numbers again brother, I mean dude.”
I really didn’t intend this to be this long. Thanks to anyone who made it this far. Now I’m beginning to understand that if I start talking about Lost, people avoid me.
