There is more than one timeline existing in the Lost world. We have been seeing these multiple timelines all along. The last scene of the season 3 finale, where Jack talks to Kate in LA in 2007 is one of many “futures.” Different “futures” can and will be created if different choices are made. There are then also different “pasts.”
Let me show you.
There are two interviews where Damon and Carlton talk about a game changer. Have a look-see:
This is from an Ausiello interview in 11/06
“You guys have been quoted as saying you're going to drop a "bomb" during the second half of the season.
Damon: There are two bombs being dropped, one of which is a character bomb, and that will happen within the first three episodes after the break. And the other is a more significant story bomb, a game-changer, as it were, and that will happen shortly after.”
Damon and Carlton later said regarding FBYE(which I thought was the game changer):
“This is the first step in setting up the game changer, but the real bomb is still coming,” he explained via e-mail. “And when it hits, there will be no doubt as to the fact that it has. I suspect very few people will be asking, ‘Was that it?’ ”
I think that though the finale probably provided us the real GAME CHANGER, I want to look at this closely. First, how would FBYE set up the game changer?
In FBYE we see Desmond seemingly go back to 1995. He has a vague memory of the island it seems too. Desmond is reliving this part of his life with some knowledge of what will happen in the future. Enter Mrs. Hawking. She stops Desmond when he apparently makes a “different choice” than what is already prescribed and determined. He wants to buy the ring for Penny. Here is the dialogue that follows:
DESMOND: I'll take it.
MS. HAWKING [surprised]: I'm sorry?
DESMOND: It's perfect. I'll take it.
MS. HAWKING: No you won't. Give me the ring. Give it here.
DESMOND: I don't understand.
MS. HAWKING: This is wrong. You don't buy the ring. You have second thoughts; you walk right out that door. So, come on, let's have it.
DESMOND: I don't know what you're on about.
MS. HAWKING: You don't buy the ring, Desmond.
DESMOND: How do you know my name?
MS. HAWKING: Well, I know your name as well as I know that you that don't ask Penny to marry you. In fact, you break her heart. Well, breaking her heart is, of course, what drives you in a few short years from now to enter that sailing race -- to prove her father wrong -- which brings you to the island where you spend the next 3 years of your life entering numbers into the computer until you are forced to turn that failsafe key. And if you don't do those things, Desmond David Hume, every single one of us is dead. So give me that sodding ring…
DESMOND: You're here to talk me out of marrying Penny. Well, it won't bloody work.
MS. HAWKING: Oh, yes it will.
DESMOND: No, there is no island. There is no button. It's madness. I love her. She loves me. I'm going to spend the rest of my life with her.
MS. HAWKING: No, Desmond, you're not.
[Suddenly, there is a loud crash behind the bench Ms. Hawking and Desmond have been sitting on. Some scaffolding has fallen and killed the man with red shoes.]
DESMOND: Oh, my God. You knew that was going to happen, didn't you? [she nods] Then why didn't you stop it? Why didn't you do anything?
MS. HAWKING: Because it wouldn't matter. Had I warned him about the scaffolding tomorrow he'd be hit by a taxi. If I warned him about the taxi, he'd fall in the shower and break his neck. The universe, unfortunately, has a way of course correcting. That man was supposed to die. That was his path just as it's your path to go to the island. You don't do it because you choose to, Desmond. You do it because you're supposed to.
DESMOND: I'm going to meet Penny in an hour. I've got the ring; she'll say yes; I can choose whatever I want.
MS. HAWKING: You may not like your path, Desmond, but pushing that button is the only truly great thing that you will ever do.
According to Mrs. Hawking the universe will course correct (eventually). Desmond seems to believe her and decided not to ask Penny to marry him. But Desmond eventually does "change things" on the island once he begins getting his visions. He sees Charlie die, but instead of just letting it happen that way, he attempts to change the future by saving Charlie. When he reveals this to Charlie after a drunken campfire bonding time with Hurley and Charlie, he also tells Charlie that no matter what he does, Charlie is going to die. The Universe will course correct he is saying. Despite Des’ belief that the universe will just course correct no matter what he does, he tries to act upon his flashes.
Now we have the set up for what unfolds the rest of the season leading up to the game changer. You can change things, past present and future. Perhaps Mrs. Hawking is correct that the universe will course correct but an irrefutable result is that everything else has changed in the meantime.
The unfolding…
We see Des save Charlie first from the lightning, then from drowning, next from hitting his head on the cliffs and lastly from getting that nasty arrow in the neck. Eventually Desmond decides that Charlie has to die this time because the result of Charlie dying is that Claire and the baby get rescued according to Des' vision. In order for that to happen, Charlie must die. As we know, Charlie knowingly sacrifices his life going down to the LG so that Claire, Aaron and the others can be rescued. The universe course corrected, Charlie died eventually just like Mrs. Hawking said it would but, if Des had not saved Charlie the first time, with the lightning incident, Charlie would not have been there to turn off the switch, turn off the jammer and allow contact with Naomi's boat. Arguably, many, many things would have changed had Des not made that first, second, third and forth attempt to save Charlie. The butterfly effect. If Charlie wasn't alive by “Catch 22”, would Des have had that vision that made them go on their camping trip which led to finding Naomi? If they had not found Naomi would she have just died there in the jungle? If that happened, there would have been no sat phone, no finding out about the LG, no contact with Naomi's ship. Certainly there would be endless effects of Charlie having died the very first time with the lightning.
I have suspected a significance of the butterfly effect since we first saw Ben’s house in TMFT with all the butterflies displayed around his office. If you are not familiar with the BE theory, here is a short definition from Wiki: “The phrase refers to the idea that a butterfly's wings might create tiny changes in the atmosphere that ultimately cause a tornado to appear (or prevent a tornado from appearing). The flapping wing represents a small change in the initial condition of the system, which causes a chain of events leading to large-scale phenomena. Had the butterfly not flapped its wings, the trajectory of the system might have been vastly different.” Remember the butterfly theory. Now let’s move on.
Because of Desmonds flashes, which always seem to center around Charlie, he keeps changing the future. Or is it the future? Remember the last moments of seeason 3? Jack contacts Naomi’s ship and a man answers the phone. His name is Minkowski. Why does that matter? Thanks to my favorite Lost blogger J. Wood’s we find out a little bit about Minkowski and J. offers his always insightful look into the Lost real-life references “A mathematician named Hermann Minkowski came up with the idea in an attempt to provide a mathematical setting for Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity. If time is connected to space, then all time is occurring at once, just as all space is occurring at once. That means that there really is no past or future; we just experience it in a mediated way because our brains have enough trouble wrapping around time-bending in narratives, let alone in our walking-around lives. (Hence jam yester-day and jam to-morrow, but no jam to-day, because to-day is all that really is.) If spacetime is indeed the case (and Minkowski spacetime is accepted), then when Des alters the seeming future, he's also altering the seeming past and the entire present.” In my words, this is Des causing a Butterfly Effect. How might this look in our story? Desmond saves Charlie the first time and that change ripples throughout space-time and perhaps as a result…Christian never died. But also as a result of the universe being changed on this Island in particular, another identical universe is spawned off, the way cells divide. It’s an identical universe…until Desmond changes it again by saving Charlie thus spawning off another universe (which really is now a multiverse). So now we have universe A1, universe A2, Universe A3 and so on. I am stating that we have been seeing these alternate universes or timelines since the beginning of Lost and not really realizing it.
We’ve seen many “continuity errors” with props and with dialogue that we have not been able to make sense of calling them “continuity errors.” I propose they are much more than that. They are actually different events in different timelines.
To better understand how Desmond can change the whole universe just by saving Charlie I again want to go to J. Wood. This is again from his blog. It’s the entry titled “Lost: "Through the Looking Glass"
*DES HACKING FATE'S CSS FILE*
“Any web site has two basic elements, content and presentation. All presentation is controlled by a single file (or sometimes a few different ones, for flexibility). Think of the Powell's site; there are thousands upon thousands of pages, and they all have a consistent look to them. That look is controlled by about four CSS files If you look at the source code).
Change one element in one of those CSS files -- like the color of the banner -- and the banners on all of those thousands of pages change.
If we're dealing with Minkowski space (and I think we are), the past/present/future are all existing simultaneously, just like all the pages in the Powell's web site are existing simultaneously. We just don't experience them all at once.”
Enter the butterfly theory. By Des hacking fate’s CSS file he is thus causing the butterfly effect. Taking Minkowski space-time into effect, Desmond is changing things in the past, present and future. Charlie doesn’t die by lightning so Christian never dies. Again, Charlie doesn’t die so Kate never kills her father.
The Game Changer
There are many different timelines and now we KNOW that we’ve already seen them because we saw a future where Christian Shepherd is alive and seemingly Kate is not a criminal.
Here are several examples of instances where we have seen different timelines. Here I am going to use examples where we’ve seen different versions of the same event or heard differing accounts of an event:
From "Cost of Living" Ben talking to Jack.
BEN: Two days after I found out I had a fatal tumor on my spine, a spinal surgeon fell out of the sky. And if that's not proof of God, I don't know what is.
Then…
From “One of Us”
JULIET: You have a tumour.
BEN: What?
JULIET: When you told me about your back pain, I said that I would take some X-rays to see if it was a small fracture or a herniated disc. But that's not your problem. Your problem is a large tumor surrounding your L-4 vertebrae. [Ben examines the X-rays] You're surprised.
BEN: Well you just told me I have cancer, Juliet, of course I'm surprised.
JULIET: No I told you that you had a tumor.
[Ben walks to get a glass of water]
JULIET: Why are you scared?
BEN: I'm not scared.
JULIET: Why are you scared, Ben? You said no-one on this Island ever had cancer, you told me that.
BEN: I know what I told you, Jul...
JULIET: You told me you could fix it. You said that, you said that you cured my sister, you lied to me.
Then to show that the above takes place one day before the crash:
Also from “One of Us” this is when Ben takes Juliet to the Flame right after they see the plane crash:
BEN: [To Juliet] Yesterday you called me a liar. I was hurt by that.
If the first claim by Ben is true, about a surgeon falling out of the sky TWO DAYS after he found out, then the crash date would be September 23, 2004. We saw in the flame and also know from many other sources that the plane crash took place on September 22, 2004.
FROM Tale Of Two Cities:
GALE: You run and you can make that shore line in an hour. Ethan, get up there to that fuselage. There may actually be survivors; and you're one of them. A passenger -- in shock -- come up with an adequate story if they ask. Stay quiet if they don't. Listen, learn, don't get involved. I want lists in 3 days. Go.
[Goodwin and Ethan run off. Henry notices Juliet standing nearby holding a Stephen King book.]
GALE: So I guess I'm out of the book club.
>From One Of Us:
BEN: Goodwin. Ethan. There might actually be survivors. And you're one of them, a passenger, you're in shock. Listen, learn, don't get involved. I want lists in three days. Go! So I guess I'm out of the bookclub.
From a flashback in "One of Us" which takes place the day before 815 crashes:
JULIET: I was just realizing, that tomorrow I will have been on this Island for three years.
Juliet then get s a knock at the door and it's the X-rays she had taken of Ben that show he's got a tumor. She confronts Ben and calls him a liar for saying that there was no cancer on the island.
to confirm that date:
BEN: [To Juliet] Yesterday you called me a liar. I was hurt by that.
That puts Juliet arriving on the Island September 22, 2001
>From "Not in Portland"
JULIET: I've been on this island for 3 years, Jack. 3 years, 2 months, and 28 days. He said that if I let him live and I helped you -- that he would finally let me go home.
According to the Lostpedia timeline this is December 3, 2004. Day 73 for the Losties. That would make Juliet's arrival date September 5th, 2001.
From White Rabbit
JACK [off camera, at first]: Leave him alone. It's been 6 days and we're all still waiting. Waiting for someone to come. But what if they don't? We have to stop waiting. We need to start figuring things out. A woman died this morning just going for a swim and he tried to save her, and now you're about to crucify him? We can't do this. Everyman for himself is not going to work. It's time to start organizing. We need to figure out how we're going to survive here. Now, I found water. Fresh water, up in the valley. I'll take a group in at first light. If you don't want to go come then find another way to contribute. Last week most of us were strangers, but we're all here now. And god knows how long we're going to be here. But if we can't live together, we're going to die alone.
From Expose:
JACK: Leave him alone! Its been six days, we're all still waiting for someone to come. We have to stop waiting. We need to start figuring things out. Now I found water. Fresh water up in the valley. I'll take in a group at first light. If you don't wanna come, then find another way to contribute. Because every man for himself is not gonna work. But if we can't live together, we're gonna die alone.
There are also examples of “props” changing. There is a lot of this that we see in the Swan. One point the medicine cabinet is new and shiny red, another moment it is rusty looking. In TMFT we see the contents of Ben’s refrigerator change from moment to moment as well as the clock located near his front door. I will leave you to look for these screen caps on your own.
I hope that this convinces you that we’ve been seeing different timelines. If not, perhaps this bit from Lindelof will be the clincher for you. In an interview posted on EW he said this about the finale: “And it will make you realize that the house you are standing in actually has a lot more rooms than you thought when you came into it.”
I take that to mean we now have a better idea about these timelines in that we’ve seen the future and Christian is alive and Kate isn’t a fugitive.
An epilogue…
In the last moments of the finale Jack is told by Locke that he is not supposed to make the call to Naomi’s ship. My guess is that the Island told him this via “Walt. This is part of the “work” he has to do. There must be some reason that things need to happen a certain way. Locke, who we know to be in tune with the island, has said on more than one occasion that “this wasn’t supposed to happen” or “it wasn’t supposed to happen like this.” Is there some pre-determined or correct path? What happens in the timeline that it’s achieved? I have a theory about that too…but this is an epilogue and that is another story!
Theory by Lostmommyof3
Let me show you.
There are two interviews where Damon and Carlton talk about a game changer. Have a look-see:
This is from an Ausiello interview in 11/06
“You guys have been quoted as saying you're going to drop a "bomb" during the second half of the season.
Damon: There are two bombs being dropped, one of which is a character bomb, and that will happen within the first three episodes after the break. And the other is a more significant story bomb, a game-changer, as it were, and that will happen shortly after.”
Damon and Carlton later said regarding FBYE(which I thought was the game changer):
“This is the first step in setting up the game changer, but the real bomb is still coming,” he explained via e-mail. “And when it hits, there will be no doubt as to the fact that it has. I suspect very few people will be asking, ‘Was that it?’ ”
I think that though the finale probably provided us the real GAME CHANGER, I want to look at this closely. First, how would FBYE set up the game changer?
In FBYE we see Desmond seemingly go back to 1995. He has a vague memory of the island it seems too. Desmond is reliving this part of his life with some knowledge of what will happen in the future. Enter Mrs. Hawking. She stops Desmond when he apparently makes a “different choice” than what is already prescribed and determined. He wants to buy the ring for Penny. Here is the dialogue that follows:
DESMOND: I'll take it.
MS. HAWKING [surprised]: I'm sorry?
DESMOND: It's perfect. I'll take it.
MS. HAWKING: No you won't. Give me the ring. Give it here.
DESMOND: I don't understand.
MS. HAWKING: This is wrong. You don't buy the ring. You have second thoughts; you walk right out that door. So, come on, let's have it.
DESMOND: I don't know what you're on about.
MS. HAWKING: You don't buy the ring, Desmond.
DESMOND: How do you know my name?
MS. HAWKING: Well, I know your name as well as I know that you that don't ask Penny to marry you. In fact, you break her heart. Well, breaking her heart is, of course, what drives you in a few short years from now to enter that sailing race -- to prove her father wrong -- which brings you to the island where you spend the next 3 years of your life entering numbers into the computer until you are forced to turn that failsafe key. And if you don't do those things, Desmond David Hume, every single one of us is dead. So give me that sodding ring…
DESMOND: You're here to talk me out of marrying Penny. Well, it won't bloody work.
MS. HAWKING: Oh, yes it will.
DESMOND: No, there is no island. There is no button. It's madness. I love her. She loves me. I'm going to spend the rest of my life with her.
MS. HAWKING: No, Desmond, you're not.
[Suddenly, there is a loud crash behind the bench Ms. Hawking and Desmond have been sitting on. Some scaffolding has fallen and killed the man with red shoes.]
DESMOND: Oh, my God. You knew that was going to happen, didn't you? [she nods] Then why didn't you stop it? Why didn't you do anything?
MS. HAWKING: Because it wouldn't matter. Had I warned him about the scaffolding tomorrow he'd be hit by a taxi. If I warned him about the taxi, he'd fall in the shower and break his neck. The universe, unfortunately, has a way of course correcting. That man was supposed to die. That was his path just as it's your path to go to the island. You don't do it because you choose to, Desmond. You do it because you're supposed to.
DESMOND: I'm going to meet Penny in an hour. I've got the ring; she'll say yes; I can choose whatever I want.
MS. HAWKING: You may not like your path, Desmond, but pushing that button is the only truly great thing that you will ever do.
According to Mrs. Hawking the universe will course correct (eventually). Desmond seems to believe her and decided not to ask Penny to marry him. But Desmond eventually does "change things" on the island once he begins getting his visions. He sees Charlie die, but instead of just letting it happen that way, he attempts to change the future by saving Charlie. When he reveals this to Charlie after a drunken campfire bonding time with Hurley and Charlie, he also tells Charlie that no matter what he does, Charlie is going to die. The Universe will course correct he is saying. Despite Des’ belief that the universe will just course correct no matter what he does, he tries to act upon his flashes.
Now we have the set up for what unfolds the rest of the season leading up to the game changer. You can change things, past present and future. Perhaps Mrs. Hawking is correct that the universe will course correct but an irrefutable result is that everything else has changed in the meantime.
The unfolding…
We see Des save Charlie first from the lightning, then from drowning, next from hitting his head on the cliffs and lastly from getting that nasty arrow in the neck. Eventually Desmond decides that Charlie has to die this time because the result of Charlie dying is that Claire and the baby get rescued according to Des' vision. In order for that to happen, Charlie must die. As we know, Charlie knowingly sacrifices his life going down to the LG so that Claire, Aaron and the others can be rescued. The universe course corrected, Charlie died eventually just like Mrs. Hawking said it would but, if Des had not saved Charlie the first time, with the lightning incident, Charlie would not have been there to turn off the switch, turn off the jammer and allow contact with Naomi's boat. Arguably, many, many things would have changed had Des not made that first, second, third and forth attempt to save Charlie. The butterfly effect. If Charlie wasn't alive by “Catch 22”, would Des have had that vision that made them go on their camping trip which led to finding Naomi? If they had not found Naomi would she have just died there in the jungle? If that happened, there would have been no sat phone, no finding out about the LG, no contact with Naomi's ship. Certainly there would be endless effects of Charlie having died the very first time with the lightning.
I have suspected a significance of the butterfly effect since we first saw Ben’s house in TMFT with all the butterflies displayed around his office. If you are not familiar with the BE theory, here is a short definition from Wiki: “The phrase refers to the idea that a butterfly's wings might create tiny changes in the atmosphere that ultimately cause a tornado to appear (or prevent a tornado from appearing). The flapping wing represents a small change in the initial condition of the system, which causes a chain of events leading to large-scale phenomena. Had the butterfly not flapped its wings, the trajectory of the system might have been vastly different.” Remember the butterfly theory. Now let’s move on.
Because of Desmonds flashes, which always seem to center around Charlie, he keeps changing the future. Or is it the future? Remember the last moments of seeason 3? Jack contacts Naomi’s ship and a man answers the phone. His name is Minkowski. Why does that matter? Thanks to my favorite Lost blogger J. Wood’s we find out a little bit about Minkowski and J. offers his always insightful look into the Lost real-life references “A mathematician named Hermann Minkowski came up with the idea in an attempt to provide a mathematical setting for Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity. If time is connected to space, then all time is occurring at once, just as all space is occurring at once. That means that there really is no past or future; we just experience it in a mediated way because our brains have enough trouble wrapping around time-bending in narratives, let alone in our walking-around lives. (Hence jam yester-day and jam to-morrow, but no jam to-day, because to-day is all that really is.) If spacetime is indeed the case (and Minkowski spacetime is accepted), then when Des alters the seeming future, he's also altering the seeming past and the entire present.” In my words, this is Des causing a Butterfly Effect. How might this look in our story? Desmond saves Charlie the first time and that change ripples throughout space-time and perhaps as a result…Christian never died. But also as a result of the universe being changed on this Island in particular, another identical universe is spawned off, the way cells divide. It’s an identical universe…until Desmond changes it again by saving Charlie thus spawning off another universe (which really is now a multiverse). So now we have universe A1, universe A2, Universe A3 and so on. I am stating that we have been seeing these alternate universes or timelines since the beginning of Lost and not really realizing it.
We’ve seen many “continuity errors” with props and with dialogue that we have not been able to make sense of calling them “continuity errors.” I propose they are much more than that. They are actually different events in different timelines.
To better understand how Desmond can change the whole universe just by saving Charlie I again want to go to J. Wood. This is again from his blog. It’s the entry titled “Lost: "Through the Looking Glass"
*DES HACKING FATE'S CSS FILE*
“Any web site has two basic elements, content and presentation. All presentation is controlled by a single file (or sometimes a few different ones, for flexibility). Think of the Powell's site; there are thousands upon thousands of pages, and they all have a consistent look to them. That look is controlled by about four CSS files If you look at the source code).
Change one element in one of those CSS files -- like the color of the banner -- and the banners on all of those thousands of pages change.
If we're dealing with Minkowski space (and I think we are), the past/present/future are all existing simultaneously, just like all the pages in the Powell's web site are existing simultaneously. We just don't experience them all at once.”
Enter the butterfly theory. By Des hacking fate’s CSS file he is thus causing the butterfly effect. Taking Minkowski space-time into effect, Desmond is changing things in the past, present and future. Charlie doesn’t die by lightning so Christian never dies. Again, Charlie doesn’t die so Kate never kills her father.
The Game Changer
There are many different timelines and now we KNOW that we’ve already seen them because we saw a future where Christian Shepherd is alive and seemingly Kate is not a criminal.
Here are several examples of instances where we have seen different timelines. Here I am going to use examples where we’ve seen different versions of the same event or heard differing accounts of an event:
From "Cost of Living" Ben talking to Jack.
BEN: Two days after I found out I had a fatal tumor on my spine, a spinal surgeon fell out of the sky. And if that's not proof of God, I don't know what is.
Then…
From “One of Us”
JULIET: You have a tumour.
BEN: What?
JULIET: When you told me about your back pain, I said that I would take some X-rays to see if it was a small fracture or a herniated disc. But that's not your problem. Your problem is a large tumor surrounding your L-4 vertebrae. [Ben examines the X-rays] You're surprised.
BEN: Well you just told me I have cancer, Juliet, of course I'm surprised.
JULIET: No I told you that you had a tumor.
[Ben walks to get a glass of water]
JULIET: Why are you scared?
BEN: I'm not scared.
JULIET: Why are you scared, Ben? You said no-one on this Island ever had cancer, you told me that.
BEN: I know what I told you, Jul...
JULIET: You told me you could fix it. You said that, you said that you cured my sister, you lied to me.
Then to show that the above takes place one day before the crash:
Also from “One of Us” this is when Ben takes Juliet to the Flame right after they see the plane crash:
BEN: [To Juliet] Yesterday you called me a liar. I was hurt by that.
If the first claim by Ben is true, about a surgeon falling out of the sky TWO DAYS after he found out, then the crash date would be September 23, 2004. We saw in the flame and also know from many other sources that the plane crash took place on September 22, 2004.
FROM Tale Of Two Cities:
GALE: You run and you can make that shore line in an hour. Ethan, get up there to that fuselage. There may actually be survivors; and you're one of them. A passenger -- in shock -- come up with an adequate story if they ask. Stay quiet if they don't. Listen, learn, don't get involved. I want lists in 3 days. Go.
[Goodwin and Ethan run off. Henry notices Juliet standing nearby holding a Stephen King book.]
GALE: So I guess I'm out of the book club.
>From One Of Us:
BEN: Goodwin. Ethan. There might actually be survivors. And you're one of them, a passenger, you're in shock. Listen, learn, don't get involved. I want lists in three days. Go! So I guess I'm out of the bookclub.
From a flashback in "One of Us" which takes place the day before 815 crashes:
JULIET: I was just realizing, that tomorrow I will have been on this Island for three years.
Juliet then get s a knock at the door and it's the X-rays she had taken of Ben that show he's got a tumor. She confronts Ben and calls him a liar for saying that there was no cancer on the island.
to confirm that date:
BEN: [To Juliet] Yesterday you called me a liar. I was hurt by that.
That puts Juliet arriving on the Island September 22, 2001
>From "Not in Portland"
JULIET: I've been on this island for 3 years, Jack. 3 years, 2 months, and 28 days. He said that if I let him live and I helped you -- that he would finally let me go home.
According to the Lostpedia timeline this is December 3, 2004. Day 73 for the Losties. That would make Juliet's arrival date September 5th, 2001.
From White Rabbit
JACK [off camera, at first]: Leave him alone. It's been 6 days and we're all still waiting. Waiting for someone to come. But what if they don't? We have to stop waiting. We need to start figuring things out. A woman died this morning just going for a swim and he tried to save her, and now you're about to crucify him? We can't do this. Everyman for himself is not going to work. It's time to start organizing. We need to figure out how we're going to survive here. Now, I found water. Fresh water, up in the valley. I'll take a group in at first light. If you don't want to go come then find another way to contribute. Last week most of us were strangers, but we're all here now. And god knows how long we're going to be here. But if we can't live together, we're going to die alone.
From Expose:
JACK: Leave him alone! Its been six days, we're all still waiting for someone to come. We have to stop waiting. We need to start figuring things out. Now I found water. Fresh water up in the valley. I'll take in a group at first light. If you don't wanna come, then find another way to contribute. Because every man for himself is not gonna work. But if we can't live together, we're gonna die alone.
There are also examples of “props” changing. There is a lot of this that we see in the Swan. One point the medicine cabinet is new and shiny red, another moment it is rusty looking. In TMFT we see the contents of Ben’s refrigerator change from moment to moment as well as the clock located near his front door. I will leave you to look for these screen caps on your own.
I hope that this convinces you that we’ve been seeing different timelines. If not, perhaps this bit from Lindelof will be the clincher for you. In an interview posted on EW he said this about the finale: “And it will make you realize that the house you are standing in actually has a lot more rooms than you thought when you came into it.”
I take that to mean we now have a better idea about these timelines in that we’ve seen the future and Christian is alive and Kate isn’t a fugitive.
An epilogue…
In the last moments of the finale Jack is told by Locke that he is not supposed to make the call to Naomi’s ship. My guess is that the Island told him this via “Walt. This is part of the “work” he has to do. There must be some reason that things need to happen a certain way. Locke, who we know to be in tune with the island, has said on more than one occasion that “this wasn’t supposed to happen” or “it wasn’t supposed to happen like this.” Is there some pre-determined or correct path? What happens in the timeline that it’s achieved? I have a theory about that too…but this is an epilogue and that is another story!
Theory by Lostmommyof3
