Hey guys, I was reading some of the most recent theories and give some credit to Korey Kelly for thinking about this, but I had a great "flash" about what MIB could be as well. Imagine if MIB isn't the smoke monster, isn't the opposite or constant of jacob (though actually I think he WILL be Jacob's Constant), and CAN die as well through the rules. Well what makes me think twice about giving such power in our minds to these two characters, let's not forget what we've seen with both Widmore and Ben and the rules.
Let's for a minute question who MIB actually is or why he'd be pissed as hell at Jacob for bringing more outsiders to the island. My honest guess is that he could very well be the current Richard Alpert or leader of the Other's on the island when we see the flashback. He's mad at Jacob because in Jacob's sick game of destiny/freewill (which also made me think twice when I re-watched the final scene of the finale and Jacob almost pleads to Ben that he has a choice...till he decides to not shut his mouth and pushes Ben over the top) the people MIB leads are put in danger.
The two also could be the same as Jack and Locke; a man of science and a man of faith. In MIB's take, he's like Jack where be deduces that the most logical characteristics of human nature will end in the route of "Lord of the Flies" when a group of humans, of their own vocation or not, are brought to the Island (They corrupt, destroy, yada yada lol).
Jacob on the "Other" hand (insert sarcastic haha) believes in keeping the faith in people. He likes to play God by pushing the pieces into place and watching them have at it. What MIB seems to hate from this is the fact that he seems to reasonably doubt that humans could ever break their programing. It's not that he's anti-human, but he accepts the limitations. He wants to kill Jacob because he has to constantly watch Jacob manipulate and force a scenario which could only lead to an inedible conclusion. Add time travel, agelessness, and smoke monsters, and you pretty much could force results in anyway you so chose.
It actually reminds me a lot of this fantastic article I read in the New Yorker about the Judas paradox and the contradiction to freewill/omnipotent nature of God if Jesus was always destined to be betrayed for a set amount of events that had to take place. Judas's "betrayal" would then almost make him the most tragic and misunderstood character of the Bible (and I also believe he hung himself if that didn't seem a little to much like Locke even though most people already have compared Ben and Locke to Judas a million times before). Locke is the most tragic character in the story, but at the same time it's really MIB who turns Ben against Jacob, not the other way around (and certainly not the "real" Locke). Locke for all intense purposes fulfilled his own prophetic believe of being special through the time paradox, but at the same time is special because he needed to be dead for MIB to carry out his loophole.
Is it all just progress if it can only happen once? I guess it's yet to be determined, but what I do think is worth looking at is the fact that we all are so quick to judge and throw out character roles to the unknown that we kind of lose sight of reality. YES the producers said the finale would teach us more about the black smoke. YES MIB/Esau/anti-Jacob/Flocke wore a black shirt and said he wanted to kill Jacob. But let's remember one thing. The Monster JUDGES and MIB didn't seem like a person who did that (and that's MY guess) against anyone but really Jacob himself (like he almost accepted human nature like I stated previously...or on he may be the monster and just has scanned and killed so many people that he also reached that conclusion).
I wouldn't mind or think it's not possible for him to be the Monster, but at the same time I think the fact that he was trapped in the cabin (one could assume) for a certain amount of time plays into the fact that he can't be the Monster (like maybe he was in the cabin and didn't age or something kind of like Richard), since the Monster has been a presence through all the seasons and things with apparitions or manifestations only started getting flip flopped after Hurley (or possibly even Ben and Locke) tripped the ash circle (if it even was them who did so). The Monster also doesn't always kill (which makes you wonder if it CAN or follows a set of rules as well), and has a way to similar conversation with Jacob that mimicked the Ben/Widmore conversation. So idk he probably is a demi-god meta human thingie like Jacob, but as far as I can see it would be more FUN if he was the FIRST leader of the Other's, the original Richard Alpert type islander, or the Monster ultimately.
And on one FINAL note, I still can't get it out of my mind what the producers were taking about when they described the cabin as being a kind of containment and yet protective place. How Ben and Jacob have a "symbiotic" relationship yet Ben claims he made it all up (accept for the wacko dream visions, or he also could have made it up just to save face with Locke and Hurley when they're at the DHARMA mass grave) and never even spoke to Jacob. How Ben knew were the cabin was... this all seems very important, so any thoughts on this would particularly help/
Thanks for your time and hope you enjoyed!!
Let's for a minute question who MIB actually is or why he'd be pissed as hell at Jacob for bringing more outsiders to the island. My honest guess is that he could very well be the current Richard Alpert or leader of the Other's on the island when we see the flashback. He's mad at Jacob because in Jacob's sick game of destiny/freewill (which also made me think twice when I re-watched the final scene of the finale and Jacob almost pleads to Ben that he has a choice...till he decides to not shut his mouth and pushes Ben over the top) the people MIB leads are put in danger.
The two also could be the same as Jack and Locke; a man of science and a man of faith. In MIB's take, he's like Jack where be deduces that the most logical characteristics of human nature will end in the route of "Lord of the Flies" when a group of humans, of their own vocation or not, are brought to the Island (They corrupt, destroy, yada yada lol).
Jacob on the "Other" hand (insert sarcastic haha) believes in keeping the faith in people. He likes to play God by pushing the pieces into place and watching them have at it. What MIB seems to hate from this is the fact that he seems to reasonably doubt that humans could ever break their programing. It's not that he's anti-human, but he accepts the limitations. He wants to kill Jacob because he has to constantly watch Jacob manipulate and force a scenario which could only lead to an inedible conclusion. Add time travel, agelessness, and smoke monsters, and you pretty much could force results in anyway you so chose.
It actually reminds me a lot of this fantastic article I read in the New Yorker about the Judas paradox and the contradiction to freewill/omnipotent nature of God if Jesus was always destined to be betrayed for a set amount of events that had to take place. Judas's "betrayal" would then almost make him the most tragic and misunderstood character of the Bible (and I also believe he hung himself if that didn't seem a little to much like Locke even though most people already have compared Ben and Locke to Judas a million times before). Locke is the most tragic character in the story, but at the same time it's really MIB who turns Ben against Jacob, not the other way around (and certainly not the "real" Locke). Locke for all intense purposes fulfilled his own prophetic believe of being special through the time paradox, but at the same time is special because he needed to be dead for MIB to carry out his loophole.
Is it all just progress if it can only happen once? I guess it's yet to be determined, but what I do think is worth looking at is the fact that we all are so quick to judge and throw out character roles to the unknown that we kind of lose sight of reality. YES the producers said the finale would teach us more about the black smoke. YES MIB/Esau/anti-Jacob/Flocke wore a black shirt and said he wanted to kill Jacob. But let's remember one thing. The Monster JUDGES and MIB didn't seem like a person who did that (and that's MY guess) against anyone but really Jacob himself (like he almost accepted human nature like I stated previously...or on he may be the monster and just has scanned and killed so many people that he also reached that conclusion).
I wouldn't mind or think it's not possible for him to be the Monster, but at the same time I think the fact that he was trapped in the cabin (one could assume) for a certain amount of time plays into the fact that he can't be the Monster (like maybe he was in the cabin and didn't age or something kind of like Richard), since the Monster has been a presence through all the seasons and things with apparitions or manifestations only started getting flip flopped after Hurley (or possibly even Ben and Locke) tripped the ash circle (if it even was them who did so). The Monster also doesn't always kill (which makes you wonder if it CAN or follows a set of rules as well), and has a way to similar conversation with Jacob that mimicked the Ben/Widmore conversation. So idk he probably is a demi-god meta human thingie like Jacob, but as far as I can see it would be more FUN if he was the FIRST leader of the Other's, the original Richard Alpert type islander, or the Monster ultimately.
And on one FINAL note, I still can't get it out of my mind what the producers were taking about when they described the cabin as being a kind of containment and yet protective place. How Ben and Jacob have a "symbiotic" relationship yet Ben claims he made it all up (accept for the wacko dream visions, or he also could have made it up just to save face with Locke and Hurley when they're at the DHARMA mass grave) and never even spoke to Jacob. How Ben knew were the cabin was... this all seems very important, so any thoughts on this would particularly help/
Thanks for your time and hope you enjoyed!!
