This is just part of a much larger exegesis on Lost. One important theme on Lost is Free Will versus Determinism. Variables versus Constants. Another major thing is massive releases of energy from the island that changes things. A game changer. Course Correction or Fate. Island Free Will or Determinism. We know from Ms. H that the island is naturally moving, but it seems that every time energy is released by MAN (an act of free will ... or is it?) the course of things, the shape of things to come, changes. See the upcoming episode, the Incident. See the Pilot episode. See the Live Together, Die Alone. See There is No Place Like Home. Let s address the Pilot event.
I have two thoughts on Desmond crashing Oceanic 815.
If he was destined to do so, a few things must follow. Charles Widmore was not trying to purposefully break up Des/Penny as indicated in Season 2 and 3, but rather like Ms. H his former lover, was destined to make sure Des entered the race to crash on the island in order to button push, and, well, to be a wee bit late on the button pushing that fateful day. This is suggested by the fact that in the last episode we all watched, even though he "couldn't" go see Penny, Charles seemed perfectly content that Des/Penny were reunited and happy (and alive). This was also reinforced in Jughead when he told Des to take Penny back into hiding (i.e. Des, your destiny has been fulfilled, now go protect my daughter from that bug-eyed creepy kid).
Second, and more interestingly, if this theory is correct, then there must have been forces in the outside world plotting and planning before the crash to make sure those certain people were on that plane that day. This in fact could be the whole rational behind the flashbacks of seasons 1, 2, and 3. I think we all can see that was hinted at in all of the flashbacks; that something was trying to gather this special group of people together. The question is who know what and how much? Sun's father? The creepy guy from Australia? Kate's family? And most of all, Christian? Could Christian be much more important to the island than just a medium in which it speaks through? Could he, perhaps once being on the island, once also have gotten a speech, "to get your people to the island, Christian, you are going to have to die!" But this just raises another question, why is Locke's resurrection much more tangible and influential than Christain's (i.e. seeming much more really! alive and able to act)? I remember in Lost missing pieces, the show starts with Christian telling Vincent he has work to do. Which raises the question, how much does Vincent know? Christian is obviously very very important to the whole story, as is Jack. Remember in Season 1, episode 5, the episode where Jack is chasing his father through the jungle, Locke rescues and lectures Jack. The most important speech of the show. Locke mentions that Jack is a leader and that his people need him (and his suicide note, that he wished he had believed him) and a whole bunch more which is at the crux of the show (that is for another place and time). He ends with, a leader cant lead until he knows where he is going. It took a whole lot running through the mud, and misery, to get to where Jack needed to get to (exactly as Locke said about himself!), but he is here. Believing in fate. Season 6 will show that Jack is not trying to erase history, but fulfill his destiny. Locke also! suggests in the same conversation that Christian is not dead,! ("even if it is [impossible], let's say it's not") and is here on the island. After that, Jack found the coffin and it was empty Like Locke, Christian's proxy, Christian was raised from coffin. The question is, are the both alive, or ... what are they? Season 1 suggests the crash was not an accident, but a necessary, crucial event. "What if everything that happened, here, happened for a reason." Yes, Locke, yes indeed.
The third thing is Kelvin would have to have known on what day to leave the Hatch and lure Des out, so that he would be late in pushing the button, in order to crash the plane, in order to ... ... ...
This is crucial. If Kelvin didn't know, or the island didn't magically get him to leave, then this was a sort of accident, or act of unintentional free will. A game changing, this is going to require some course correcting, unexpected event. I also think it is possible it was not meant to happen, which would mean that this act of free will put into course a set of events the island is trying to correct, which somehow in turn, created a series of events where these people who weren't supposed to crash, somehow ended up influencing their OWN history. Although I don't think this is true, but possible ... which I thinks means ... the second release of highly intense energy, the Hatch blowing up, was perhaps the true game changer. More to follow later ...
I have two thoughts on Desmond crashing Oceanic 815.
If he was destined to do so, a few things must follow. Charles Widmore was not trying to purposefully break up Des/Penny as indicated in Season 2 and 3, but rather like Ms. H his former lover, was destined to make sure Des entered the race to crash on the island in order to button push, and, well, to be a wee bit late on the button pushing that fateful day. This is suggested by the fact that in the last episode we all watched, even though he "couldn't" go see Penny, Charles seemed perfectly content that Des/Penny were reunited and happy (and alive). This was also reinforced in Jughead when he told Des to take Penny back into hiding (i.e. Des, your destiny has been fulfilled, now go protect my daughter from that bug-eyed creepy kid).
Second, and more interestingly, if this theory is correct, then there must have been forces in the outside world plotting and planning before the crash to make sure those certain people were on that plane that day. This in fact could be the whole rational behind the flashbacks of seasons 1, 2, and 3. I think we all can see that was hinted at in all of the flashbacks; that something was trying to gather this special group of people together. The question is who know what and how much? Sun's father? The creepy guy from Australia? Kate's family? And most of all, Christian? Could Christian be much more important to the island than just a medium in which it speaks through? Could he, perhaps once being on the island, once also have gotten a speech, "to get your people to the island, Christian, you are going to have to die!" But this just raises another question, why is Locke's resurrection much more tangible and influential than Christain's (i.e. seeming much more really! alive and able to act)? I remember in Lost missing pieces, the show starts with Christian telling Vincent he has work to do. Which raises the question, how much does Vincent know? Christian is obviously very very important to the whole story, as is Jack. Remember in Season 1, episode 5, the episode where Jack is chasing his father through the jungle, Locke rescues and lectures Jack. The most important speech of the show. Locke mentions that Jack is a leader and that his people need him (and his suicide note, that he wished he had believed him) and a whole bunch more which is at the crux of the show (that is for another place and time). He ends with, a leader cant lead until he knows where he is going. It took a whole lot running through the mud, and misery, to get to where Jack needed to get to (exactly as Locke said about himself!), but he is here. Believing in fate. Season 6 will show that Jack is not trying to erase history, but fulfill his destiny. Locke also! suggests in the same conversation that Christian is not dead,! ("even if it is [impossible], let's say it's not") and is here on the island. After that, Jack found the coffin and it was empty Like Locke, Christian's proxy, Christian was raised from coffin. The question is, are the both alive, or ... what are they? Season 1 suggests the crash was not an accident, but a necessary, crucial event. "What if everything that happened, here, happened for a reason." Yes, Locke, yes indeed.
The third thing is Kelvin would have to have known on what day to leave the Hatch and lure Des out, so that he would be late in pushing the button, in order to crash the plane, in order to ... ... ...
This is crucial. If Kelvin didn't know, or the island didn't magically get him to leave, then this was a sort of accident, or act of unintentional free will. A game changing, this is going to require some course correcting, unexpected event. I also think it is possible it was not meant to happen, which would mean that this act of free will put into course a set of events the island is trying to correct, which somehow in turn, created a series of events where these people who weren't supposed to crash, somehow ended up influencing their OWN history. Although I don't think this is true, but possible ... which I thinks means ... the second release of highly intense energy, the Hatch blowing up, was perhaps the true game changer. More to follow later ...