Two sides one is light, one is dark. John Locke to Walt on the beach in the pilot, while explaining the rules of backgammon.
Wow! Immediately we are given the most important scene in lost history: A man dressed in white and a man dressed in dark. They talk about how Jacob, the man in light is always bringing people there but all they do is cause destruction. Jacob disagrees and feels its progress. This scene takes place in 1845 – the Black Rock, which has been brought to the Island by Jacob, is floating in the background. We also see the statue from the front briefly. The statue is revealed to be Taweret: the Egyptian God of maternity and child birth. Perhaps the destruction of the statue has something to do with the pregnancy issues on the island?
I think Jacob weaving was no coincidence. Later on in the episode he talks about how the cloth he was making took a tremendous amount of time and effort. I immediately thought of the survivors and how their destinies were weaved together their entire lives. As soon as the man in dark who I will refer to as “Esau”, in the bible Jacob and Esau are brothers with a heated rivalry. We all know names on this show are not given by coincidence.
“Esau” tells Jacob he wants to kill him and one day will find a loophole. I immediately thought “great, John is bad.” I think it’s pretty clear that this war between the two for the island has been going on throughout all of time. Jacob keeps bringing people to the island and argues that their work is progress. It’s pretty clear that there is a set of rules and neither Jacob nor “Esau” can physically “kill” each other. I think that this specific day was the day that Richard Alpert arrived on the island. Yeah I was hoping he was thousands of year’s old/ancient Egyptian. His initials are RA, which is the Egyptian sun God. But between this scene and the scene last week when Richard was working on the black rock model in the bottle. I’m going to say he arrived in 1845 and was most likely a slave on the ship. Since Magnus Hanso – the great grandfather of Alvar Hanso – the creator of the Dharma Initiative was the captain.
Throughout the episode we see Jacob appear and touch our survivors. Foreshadowing to me that they will be his soldiers in a war to come of sorts. He does not visit Juliet. Is it a coincidence that she ended up dead by the end of the episode then? Each moment was pivotal in the survivor’s life. Sayid – the day Nadia died which leads to him agreeing to become Ben’s hired gun. Jack – during the surgery that he told Kate about when they first met on the beach and she stitched him up. Sun and Jin – the day of their marriage. We see him heal Ilana and ask for her help. We see him literally save John Locke after his father pushes him out a window and tells him I’m sorry this happened to you, and everything will be fine. He gives Sawyer a pen so he can finish his letter to the real Mr. Sawyer. He visits young Kate with her childhood friend Tom, who in season 1 we see die when he helps her visit her dying mother.
Hurley’s visit to me was the most important. It’s the first time I felt everyone had a choice. Free will did indeed existence. Jacob does not reveal who he is. He just tells Hurley about Ajira flight 316 and that he doesn’t need to do anything he doesn’t want to do. Who’s guitar? Just like the drive shaft ring that Sun picks up by Aaron’s old crib, it belongs to Charlie. The idea of free will/choice existing makes this one of the most important moments in the finale.
1977 - Nothing too much to say honestly. In my mind we got everything that the history of the island has always told us has happened: The incident. Miles I think got it right: Jack thinks he can change things with the bomb. But in reality Jack has always thought he could change things with the bomb, but it was this thought/action that always caused the incident in the first place! I’m more curious about the aftermath of the incident. We know Miles father has to lose his arm, because he appears in the swan orientation film later on with one arm. This seemed to start happening last night. I think Radzinsky becomes ridden with guilt for refusing to listen to Chang. He ends up choosing to be the Swan’s first button pusher. Which leads to Kelvin Iman becoming his partner, which leads to Desmond, which leads to 815 crashing. I think the fate of Radzinsky is a fill in the blanks type. We can assume he will push the button and eventually go insane and blow his brain! s out. The end. What exactly happened to the survivors when Juliet heroically activated the bomb at the bottom? More on this in my prediction for where we go from here.
Everyone thinks the game changer is that John Locke is dead and “Esau” has disguised himself as him. Pretty badass. Makes perfect sense if he can’t kill Jacob himself. Who better a disguise then John? John was made leader of the others. Pretend to be John/the leader and make Richard lead you to Jacob. Knowing of Ben’s jealousy for John’s communion with the island – start planting the seed in Ben’s head to make him kill Jacob. To me the ultimate game changer or long con was this: Jacob has not been in the cabin for a loooooong time.
This means that when Ben took John to the cabin the first time and he saw a flash of an old man saying, “Help Me.” This was not Jacob. This was “Esau.” Jacob was actually holding “Esau” prisoner in the cabin! I think when Ben/John first go to the cabin, and John picks up some of the ash, this breaks the circle keeping “Esau” prisoner. Which means – the “apparitions” of Claire and Christian Shepherd and Alex are “bad/Esau.” “Esau” has been guiding John Locke to make sure he left the island knowing he would die. So he could then scan his body and be able to pretend to be John to manipulate people towards his goal of killing Jacob. I believe “Esau” tried to do this to Mr. Eko when he came to Eko as his brother Yemi. But Eko refused to accept his sins. He told “Esau” that he did what he had to do in order to survive. Knowing Eko was no longer going to be a candidate “Esau” killed him. “Esau” as Locke tells Richard to tell! alive Locke he has to leave and die. This is done to ensure that Locke’s corpse will come back so “Esau” can pretend to be John. More on this in my prediction for where we go from here.
So then we get to the final confrontation. “Esau” disguised as John hands Ben the knife. Jacob tells Ben he can do what “Esau” asks. Or he can choose not to. Again, a reminder of free will. When Ben pours his heart and soul to Jacob about being neglected we get the line of the year in return – Jacob: “What about you?” With that Ben stabs Jacob. While Jacob is “dying” he says, “they’re coming.” Let me quickly sum up Ben in my view: a pawn. An embarrassed, jealous, lying pawn. Who got exactly what he dished out. The master manipulator got manipulated. I’d like to think he will have some sort of redemption before the series ends. But who knows perhaps he’ll stay loyal to “Esau” the entire time.
Prediction on where we go from here: When Jacob says “they’re coming” while dying I think he is talking about the survivors in 1977. When Juliet activates the bomb I think it will cause an electromagnetic flash that will bring Jack, Jin, Miles, Kate, Sawyer, Sayid, Rose, Bernard, and yes Vincent back to the present. The creators have said Stephen King’s the Stand is a huge influence. I think we are going to now see the ultimate battle of good and evil. Jacob’s soldiers are on their way back.
Thoughts on John Locke: I think my favorite character has more of a role to play. The destiny of John Locke was fulfilled. He sacrificed himself to make sure everyone returned. More importantly he made Jack Shepherd into a believer. In season 1 Claire had a vision of John. In that vision John had a dark eye and light eye. When Eko tells John he saw a monster, John reveals he saw something different – a bright light. Get ready for Esau vs. Jacob round 2 – Locke vs. Locke. I think the spirit of Jacob is going to go into John’s body. Everything we need to learn about Jacob will be spoken through John next year. He will now be Jacob’s vessel.
The man of Faith (John), the man of science (Jack) will become one. I think “Esau” will only impersonate John for so long. On a side note: I think it’s clear Widmore might be in some sort of alliance with “Esau.” He wanted to make sure John got back to that island because of the war that is coming. He felt John needed to be on the island to make sure the right side won. Illana and the rest of the shadow of the statue people told Miles not to go on Widmore’s boat. They are the good guys and will win. I think they are the good guys. If they don’t want Miles to be with Charles Widmore then to me this means Widmore is against Jacob. Widmore most likely knows John will die in the process of bringing the oceanic 6 back, which is why he wants him to go to the island. So “Esau” can pretend to be him and get to kill Jacob.
Damon Lindenlof and Carlton Cuse are huge star war fans. I think we will get the ultimate father son showdown. “Esau” takes the form of whoever will help him in the situation. He was John to manipulate Richard and Ben for the whereabouts and death of Jacob. I think the ultimate showdown will be “Esau” once again becoming Christian Shepherd and confronting Jack. Think Darth Vader vs. Luke. John/Jacob will be in Jack’s corner. Think Obi Wan Kenobi.
This would work considering the huge father/son issues all of these characters have.
*The latin/answer to “What lies in the shadow of the statue?” that Richard said translates to“He who will protect/save us all.”
John Locke is right now lying in the statue in a suit. Perhaps Walt's vision about people looking to hurt him in a suit will come true. Perhaps he is suppose to rise for real thanks to Jacob and has to convince everyone he is not the fake locke.
Point is Jacob was waiting to die. It was part of his loophole to the loophole. Maybe touching the survivors was his way of spreading his soul out after death?
Wow! Immediately we are given the most important scene in lost history: A man dressed in white and a man dressed in dark. They talk about how Jacob, the man in light is always bringing people there but all they do is cause destruction. Jacob disagrees and feels its progress. This scene takes place in 1845 – the Black Rock, which has been brought to the Island by Jacob, is floating in the background. We also see the statue from the front briefly. The statue is revealed to be Taweret: the Egyptian God of maternity and child birth. Perhaps the destruction of the statue has something to do with the pregnancy issues on the island?
I think Jacob weaving was no coincidence. Later on in the episode he talks about how the cloth he was making took a tremendous amount of time and effort. I immediately thought of the survivors and how their destinies were weaved together their entire lives. As soon as the man in dark who I will refer to as “Esau”, in the bible Jacob and Esau are brothers with a heated rivalry. We all know names on this show are not given by coincidence.
“Esau” tells Jacob he wants to kill him and one day will find a loophole. I immediately thought “great, John is bad.” I think it’s pretty clear that this war between the two for the island has been going on throughout all of time. Jacob keeps bringing people to the island and argues that their work is progress. It’s pretty clear that there is a set of rules and neither Jacob nor “Esau” can physically “kill” each other. I think that this specific day was the day that Richard Alpert arrived on the island. Yeah I was hoping he was thousands of year’s old/ancient Egyptian. His initials are RA, which is the Egyptian sun God. But between this scene and the scene last week when Richard was working on the black rock model in the bottle. I’m going to say he arrived in 1845 and was most likely a slave on the ship. Since Magnus Hanso – the great grandfather of Alvar Hanso – the creator of the Dharma Initiative was the captain.
Throughout the episode we see Jacob appear and touch our survivors. Foreshadowing to me that they will be his soldiers in a war to come of sorts. He does not visit Juliet. Is it a coincidence that she ended up dead by the end of the episode then? Each moment was pivotal in the survivor’s life. Sayid – the day Nadia died which leads to him agreeing to become Ben’s hired gun. Jack – during the surgery that he told Kate about when they first met on the beach and she stitched him up. Sun and Jin – the day of their marriage. We see him heal Ilana and ask for her help. We see him literally save John Locke after his father pushes him out a window and tells him I’m sorry this happened to you, and everything will be fine. He gives Sawyer a pen so he can finish his letter to the real Mr. Sawyer. He visits young Kate with her childhood friend Tom, who in season 1 we see die when he helps her visit her dying mother.
Hurley’s visit to me was the most important. It’s the first time I felt everyone had a choice. Free will did indeed existence. Jacob does not reveal who he is. He just tells Hurley about Ajira flight 316 and that he doesn’t need to do anything he doesn’t want to do. Who’s guitar? Just like the drive shaft ring that Sun picks up by Aaron’s old crib, it belongs to Charlie. The idea of free will/choice existing makes this one of the most important moments in the finale.
1977 - Nothing too much to say honestly. In my mind we got everything that the history of the island has always told us has happened: The incident. Miles I think got it right: Jack thinks he can change things with the bomb. But in reality Jack has always thought he could change things with the bomb, but it was this thought/action that always caused the incident in the first place! I’m more curious about the aftermath of the incident. We know Miles father has to lose his arm, because he appears in the swan orientation film later on with one arm. This seemed to start happening last night. I think Radzinsky becomes ridden with guilt for refusing to listen to Chang. He ends up choosing to be the Swan’s first button pusher. Which leads to Kelvin Iman becoming his partner, which leads to Desmond, which leads to 815 crashing. I think the fate of Radzinsky is a fill in the blanks type. We can assume he will push the button and eventually go insane and blow his brain! s out. The end. What exactly happened to the survivors when Juliet heroically activated the bomb at the bottom? More on this in my prediction for where we go from here.
Everyone thinks the game changer is that John Locke is dead and “Esau” has disguised himself as him. Pretty badass. Makes perfect sense if he can’t kill Jacob himself. Who better a disguise then John? John was made leader of the others. Pretend to be John/the leader and make Richard lead you to Jacob. Knowing of Ben’s jealousy for John’s communion with the island – start planting the seed in Ben’s head to make him kill Jacob. To me the ultimate game changer or long con was this: Jacob has not been in the cabin for a loooooong time.
This means that when Ben took John to the cabin the first time and he saw a flash of an old man saying, “Help Me.” This was not Jacob. This was “Esau.” Jacob was actually holding “Esau” prisoner in the cabin! I think when Ben/John first go to the cabin, and John picks up some of the ash, this breaks the circle keeping “Esau” prisoner. Which means – the “apparitions” of Claire and Christian Shepherd and Alex are “bad/Esau.” “Esau” has been guiding John Locke to make sure he left the island knowing he would die. So he could then scan his body and be able to pretend to be John to manipulate people towards his goal of killing Jacob. I believe “Esau” tried to do this to Mr. Eko when he came to Eko as his brother Yemi. But Eko refused to accept his sins. He told “Esau” that he did what he had to do in order to survive. Knowing Eko was no longer going to be a candidate “Esau” killed him. “Esau” as Locke tells Richard to tell! alive Locke he has to leave and die. This is done to ensure that Locke’s corpse will come back so “Esau” can pretend to be John. More on this in my prediction for where we go from here.
So then we get to the final confrontation. “Esau” disguised as John hands Ben the knife. Jacob tells Ben he can do what “Esau” asks. Or he can choose not to. Again, a reminder of free will. When Ben pours his heart and soul to Jacob about being neglected we get the line of the year in return – Jacob: “What about you?” With that Ben stabs Jacob. While Jacob is “dying” he says, “they’re coming.” Let me quickly sum up Ben in my view: a pawn. An embarrassed, jealous, lying pawn. Who got exactly what he dished out. The master manipulator got manipulated. I’d like to think he will have some sort of redemption before the series ends. But who knows perhaps he’ll stay loyal to “Esau” the entire time.
Prediction on where we go from here: When Jacob says “they’re coming” while dying I think he is talking about the survivors in 1977. When Juliet activates the bomb I think it will cause an electromagnetic flash that will bring Jack, Jin, Miles, Kate, Sawyer, Sayid, Rose, Bernard, and yes Vincent back to the present. The creators have said Stephen King’s the Stand is a huge influence. I think we are going to now see the ultimate battle of good and evil. Jacob’s soldiers are on their way back.
Thoughts on John Locke: I think my favorite character has more of a role to play. The destiny of John Locke was fulfilled. He sacrificed himself to make sure everyone returned. More importantly he made Jack Shepherd into a believer. In season 1 Claire had a vision of John. In that vision John had a dark eye and light eye. When Eko tells John he saw a monster, John reveals he saw something different – a bright light. Get ready for Esau vs. Jacob round 2 – Locke vs. Locke. I think the spirit of Jacob is going to go into John’s body. Everything we need to learn about Jacob will be spoken through John next year. He will now be Jacob’s vessel.
The man of Faith (John), the man of science (Jack) will become one. I think “Esau” will only impersonate John for so long. On a side note: I think it’s clear Widmore might be in some sort of alliance with “Esau.” He wanted to make sure John got back to that island because of the war that is coming. He felt John needed to be on the island to make sure the right side won. Illana and the rest of the shadow of the statue people told Miles not to go on Widmore’s boat. They are the good guys and will win. I think they are the good guys. If they don’t want Miles to be with Charles Widmore then to me this means Widmore is against Jacob. Widmore most likely knows John will die in the process of bringing the oceanic 6 back, which is why he wants him to go to the island. So “Esau” can pretend to be him and get to kill Jacob.
Damon Lindenlof and Carlton Cuse are huge star war fans. I think we will get the ultimate father son showdown. “Esau” takes the form of whoever will help him in the situation. He was John to manipulate Richard and Ben for the whereabouts and death of Jacob. I think the ultimate showdown will be “Esau” once again becoming Christian Shepherd and confronting Jack. Think Darth Vader vs. Luke. John/Jacob will be in Jack’s corner. Think Obi Wan Kenobi.
This would work considering the huge father/son issues all of these characters have.
*The latin/answer to “What lies in the shadow of the statue?” that Richard said translates to“He who will protect/save us all.”
John Locke is right now lying in the statue in a suit. Perhaps Walt's vision about people looking to hurt him in a suit will come true. Perhaps he is suppose to rise for real thanks to Jacob and has to convince everyone he is not the fake locke.
Point is Jacob was waiting to die. It was part of his loophole to the loophole. Maybe touching the survivors was his way of spreading his soul out after death?
