To expand a little on a previous theory: This is what Jack doesn't get when he's tending to Daniel's superficial wound. And why Locke isn't Locke, exactly.
If everyone had a watch, and when they boarded flight 815 they all synchronized their watches, more or less... these are just regular watches that show the time, day, and year... those watches would show that it was 2004. No biggie.
Now, as we're watching the show, even though some O6'ers stayed behind and flashed, and some left (with some of them going back to 1977 and some of them staying in 2007) right now as we're watching these two stories, 30 years apart, all those watches would say that it's 2007. (I'm just assuming for the sake of argument that the electromagnetism of the flash, or the plane crash, didn't wipe the watch out).
When baby Miles was born, he and adult Miles didn't become the same person. When Jack and Kate, etc., went back to 1977 they didn't get 30 years younger, their bodies were the same, they were the same age, their watches would have read the same thing. Hours are still ticking away. And watches don't have some magic where they sense the year by the decay or carbon atoms or the position of the starts, they just tick, tick, tick and count the ticks. Very simple.
Visualize your life as a timeline of years, months, days, hours. When you turn 30 years old, that's your 263,088th hour being alive (accounting for leap years). Everyone has experienced the same number of hours since flight 815 took off as everyone else, except John Locke. Even without him dying.
The only person from flight 815 whose watch wouldn't read 2007 would be John Locke. Because he left the Island when his watch (and Sawyer's, etc.) read late 2004, but he popped out in the desert three years later. "Your friends have been off the Island for three years."
Since the 06 left, everyone has aged three years, except for John. (John also died, but his hypothetical watch didn't.)
I don't know if this means anything overall, but perhaps if I could explain it to Jack and Hurley, they could understand why they could die. Jack is living his (I'm guesstimating) 375,000th hour being alive for the first and only time. It just so happens that he's living it in 1977. But he'll live his 350,001st hour next, and so forth.
And for the people who "belong" in 1977, like Eloise or little Ben or very little Miles, it's not so much that they CAN'T die (though they presumably can't) it's that we (the audience) and some of the characters just happen to know that certain characters DON'T die. Because we've seen them as older people.
Aside from John jumping three years into the future, he died. Now, he may be reborn, or undead. "This may be the best mango I've ever tasted," he says, or something like that. Ha! You are teasing us! It may be the FIRST and (so far only) mango "he's" ever tasted, if he's a new "spirit" or John undead. The original John Locke, human body, etc., ate lots of Mangos. This incarnation of John Locke never ate a mango before.
When you die and are embalmed (which John obviously was) they take out all your organs and stuff you full of cotton and chemicals. So if this walking/talking John Locke in 2007 isn't some new form, some new incarnation, I want to know if the Island gave him back all his original organs, and if it did, whether or not it stopped short of giving him back that second kidney! Heck, if it's going to give him back his brain, his liver, his lungs, why not give him back both kidneys? Unless, of course, he is a new manifestation. And yet, he is not immortal, since whatever it is (Jacob? Smokey? The Island?) that re-animated Alex told Ben to not kill Locke.
So Jack, Daniel is right about at least one thing. He can die. Heck, he may be dead. Everyone's life is linear, everyone ages, it's just that some characters are living some parts of their lives during different chronological years than they otherwise would have.
I just wanted Jack to know that (he's probably not able to read this website, considering he's on the Island in 1977, and, yeah, he's fictional) and I wanted to point out the clever little line that Locke (AKA the writers) threw in there about the mango...
If everyone had a watch, and when they boarded flight 815 they all synchronized their watches, more or less... these are just regular watches that show the time, day, and year... those watches would show that it was 2004. No biggie.
Now, as we're watching the show, even though some O6'ers stayed behind and flashed, and some left (with some of them going back to 1977 and some of them staying in 2007) right now as we're watching these two stories, 30 years apart, all those watches would say that it's 2007. (I'm just assuming for the sake of argument that the electromagnetism of the flash, or the plane crash, didn't wipe the watch out).
When baby Miles was born, he and adult Miles didn't become the same person. When Jack and Kate, etc., went back to 1977 they didn't get 30 years younger, their bodies were the same, they were the same age, their watches would have read the same thing. Hours are still ticking away. And watches don't have some magic where they sense the year by the decay or carbon atoms or the position of the starts, they just tick, tick, tick and count the ticks. Very simple.
Visualize your life as a timeline of years, months, days, hours. When you turn 30 years old, that's your 263,088th hour being alive (accounting for leap years). Everyone has experienced the same number of hours since flight 815 took off as everyone else, except John Locke. Even without him dying.
The only person from flight 815 whose watch wouldn't read 2007 would be John Locke. Because he left the Island when his watch (and Sawyer's, etc.) read late 2004, but he popped out in the desert three years later. "Your friends have been off the Island for three years."
Since the 06 left, everyone has aged three years, except for John. (John also died, but his hypothetical watch didn't.)
I don't know if this means anything overall, but perhaps if I could explain it to Jack and Hurley, they could understand why they could die. Jack is living his (I'm guesstimating) 375,000th hour being alive for the first and only time. It just so happens that he's living it in 1977. But he'll live his 350,001st hour next, and so forth.
And for the people who "belong" in 1977, like Eloise or little Ben or very little Miles, it's not so much that they CAN'T die (though they presumably can't) it's that we (the audience) and some of the characters just happen to know that certain characters DON'T die. Because we've seen them as older people.
Aside from John jumping three years into the future, he died. Now, he may be reborn, or undead. "This may be the best mango I've ever tasted," he says, or something like that. Ha! You are teasing us! It may be the FIRST and (so far only) mango "he's" ever tasted, if he's a new "spirit" or John undead. The original John Locke, human body, etc., ate lots of Mangos. This incarnation of John Locke never ate a mango before.
When you die and are embalmed (which John obviously was) they take out all your organs and stuff you full of cotton and chemicals. So if this walking/talking John Locke in 2007 isn't some new form, some new incarnation, I want to know if the Island gave him back all his original organs, and if it did, whether or not it stopped short of giving him back that second kidney! Heck, if it's going to give him back his brain, his liver, his lungs, why not give him back both kidneys? Unless, of course, he is a new manifestation. And yet, he is not immortal, since whatever it is (Jacob? Smokey? The Island?) that re-animated Alex told Ben to not kill Locke.
So Jack, Daniel is right about at least one thing. He can die. Heck, he may be dead. Everyone's life is linear, everyone ages, it's just that some characters are living some parts of their lives during different chronological years than they otherwise would have.
I just wanted Jack to know that (he's probably not able to read this website, considering he's on the Island in 1977, and, yeah, he's fictional) and I wanted to point out the clever little line that Locke (AKA the writers) threw in there about the mango...
