Daniel has said repeatedly whatever happened,happened.He also has said you can't change anything,but not as often as whatever happened blah blah blah.Maybe whatever they do,no matter what,was meant to be done.Basically the losties traveling in the time jumps can do ANYTHING they want to,even thinking they are trying to change something,because it was meant to be done....whatever happened,happened,right? A good example was when Ben turned the wheel. They walked to the hatch and it was blown up.Another time flash and then the hatch was buried.Juliet went over and kicked dirt off,exposing the hatch....which was how Locke and Boone found the hatch when the flashlight fell on it and made the noise of hitting metal.Juliet changed something that carried over.She kicked dirt. She was in the past and did something that effected the future. Now let's take Juliet again and say for example she was on the copter that left the! island. Then she wouldn't have cleared that space off the hatch for it to have been found.But whatever happened happened.If she had left and not cleared it,the hatch wouldn't have been found,and ALOT would be different.How would the island or fate or whatever course correct what didn't happen? What if whatever happened,didn't happen? Maybe having to get the O6 back has something to do with that."You weren't supposed to leave" has been said alot also.What if by some of the losties leaving whatever happened ,didn't happen because they wouldn't be there to do whatever they did? And the island was having a hell of a time trying to course correct? I know many people are going to say the island was skipping because the donkey wheel was off its axis. True,it was. But why have to "bring them back" if just off its axis was the case?
"He changed the rules." That phrase has always stuck with me when pondering Lost.How could anyone change the rules if whatever happened,happened? Desmond could change things,right. He's special. I got that.But Ben was referring to Widmore. Just as I used Juliet as an example in the last paragraph,let's use Lapidus here.Lapidus always ended up on the island.That's the rule.The way Widmore changed it was WHEN he went to the island.Ben and Charles both know Lapidus is on the island.A reasonable assumption is they both have knowledge of how certain events play out.Ben knows he was responsible for flying the mercs in,which ends with Alex's death.Just as Abaddon was watching Locke for Widmore to influence him to go on the walk about,Ben had people watching as well. Ok,so Locke books his flight.Both sides check the list of people getting on flight 316. Ben is like,"Whoa,Lapidus is the pilot? Interesting." So then the plane crashes and Ben thinks he's gonna change Alex's death b! y sending the monster to kill the pilot.I always thought it seemed the monster was very specific about going straight to the plane and snatching the pilot up with a quickness.Only the jokes on him because Widmore switches pilots at the last minute! Widmore knew Lapidus had to go to the island,(because whatever happened happened)but he used the gray area of WHEN to his advantage.That's why Ben was so surprised.He thought he sent the monster to kill Lapidus,so how could this have happened? Widmore couldn't change the rule to the extent that he never let's Lapidus go to the island,maybe Frank has an important role to play,so he just switched things up a little bit and let him make it there a little later.When Desmond was in the bar with his buddy,he shared with him the future by saying who wins the game on T.V. and who gets hit with the ball bat.Fate couldn't have this so it course corrected to an extent.Those things HAD to happen,because Desmond said they did,but Fate just le! t it happen a little later.
There was a previous theory I saw posted about somebody mentioning a long con. I can agree with that. The numbers are the con.The Valenzetti Equation or something like that it's called.The numbers are dispersed pretty heavily throughout the show.The context of the whole scope of the show is to try to change those numbers to show that by changing the numbers you can then change "whatever happened happened" without falling prey to course correction!
I'd like to end this theory with my thoughts on who is good or evil. It kinda seems Ben was trying to get the O6 back to the island. It SEEMS. See,Widmore was trying to get them back to the island.Ben knows they make it back and was ACTING like that's what he was working to make happen.To say again he knows the O6 make it back...because whatever happened happened.All he's trying to do is tag along 'cause then he knows he should end up on the island! The reason he needs Lockes carcass is so he can return to his people with it and say "Looks like your chosen one is dead,so he must not be the chosen one",and reclaim his leadership.I'm betting he'll be really surprised to see Locke isn't in carcass form anymore.Anything good in this theory? Theory by Frost Bitten
"He changed the rules." That phrase has always stuck with me when pondering Lost.How could anyone change the rules if whatever happened,happened? Desmond could change things,right. He's special. I got that.But Ben was referring to Widmore. Just as I used Juliet as an example in the last paragraph,let's use Lapidus here.Lapidus always ended up on the island.That's the rule.The way Widmore changed it was WHEN he went to the island.Ben and Charles both know Lapidus is on the island.A reasonable assumption is they both have knowledge of how certain events play out.Ben knows he was responsible for flying the mercs in,which ends with Alex's death.Just as Abaddon was watching Locke for Widmore to influence him to go on the walk about,Ben had people watching as well. Ok,so Locke books his flight.Both sides check the list of people getting on flight 316. Ben is like,"Whoa,Lapidus is the pilot? Interesting." So then the plane crashes and Ben thinks he's gonna change Alex's death b! y sending the monster to kill the pilot.I always thought it seemed the monster was very specific about going straight to the plane and snatching the pilot up with a quickness.Only the jokes on him because Widmore switches pilots at the last minute! Widmore knew Lapidus had to go to the island,(because whatever happened happened)but he used the gray area of WHEN to his advantage.That's why Ben was so surprised.He thought he sent the monster to kill Lapidus,so how could this have happened? Widmore couldn't change the rule to the extent that he never let's Lapidus go to the island,maybe Frank has an important role to play,so he just switched things up a little bit and let him make it there a little later.When Desmond was in the bar with his buddy,he shared with him the future by saying who wins the game on T.V. and who gets hit with the ball bat.Fate couldn't have this so it course corrected to an extent.Those things HAD to happen,because Desmond said they did,but Fate just le! t it happen a little later.
There was a previous theory I saw posted about somebody mentioning a long con. I can agree with that. The numbers are the con.The Valenzetti Equation or something like that it's called.The numbers are dispersed pretty heavily throughout the show.The context of the whole scope of the show is to try to change those numbers to show that by changing the numbers you can then change "whatever happened happened" without falling prey to course correction!
I'd like to end this theory with my thoughts on who is good or evil. It kinda seems Ben was trying to get the O6 back to the island. It SEEMS. See,Widmore was trying to get them back to the island.Ben knows they make it back and was ACTING like that's what he was working to make happen.To say again he knows the O6 make it back...because whatever happened happened.All he's trying to do is tag along 'cause then he knows he should end up on the island! The reason he needs Lockes carcass is so he can return to his people with it and say "Looks like your chosen one is dead,so he must not be the chosen one",and reclaim his leadership.I'm betting he'll be really surprised to see Locke isn't in carcass form anymore.Anything good in this theory? Theory by Frost Bitten
