Mrs. Hawking's Vile Assignment
Mrs. Hawking doesn't only tell Jack to put his father's shoes on Locke's body. She tells his "Other," Caleb, that he must do something fairly despicable: sleep with his brother's wife (Kate's "Other," Annie) and make sure she's pregnant (raping her if he has to) before they all get on the plane.
He is horrified by her suggestion of rape and concerned that she'll die on the island if she's pregnant. Not to mention, his brother, who's still on the island (Sawyer's "Other," Ashton), will be SUPER pissed about it.
Plus, how's he gonna to get the job done? It's not his body, and if he abandons his human host by "separating," how can he be sure Jack and Kate will do the deed? Mrs. Hawking tells him that "we've already arranged to take Aaron" and that Kate/Annie should be in the right frame of mind. Not to mention, he can just "push" Jack aside during the act.
When Jack/Caleb arrives back at the apartment, he starts (oddly, since it's his house and he should already know where it is) looking for booze. Kate/Annie is waiting for him. Annie has decided to "push" Kate.
"Pushing," by the way, is "immoral" and severely frowned upon. This could explain why when Kate and Jack finally have a passionate moment, it is eerie, and freaky and just "wrong," complete with creepy blue lighting.
This "pushing" will do something else we'll hear back about. Jack and Kate will not remember having sex. They will remember it as a dream, something that didn't really happen.
So when they arrive on island, guess who's pregnant? Yep. And my guess is that even though it's pretty obvious to US that it's Jack's baby, we won't understand why neither Jack nor Sawyer seem to be able to embrace it one way or another OR why Kate simply doesn't know who her baby's daddy is.
Confused? That's totally cool. I was confused too. Then I followed the white rabbit through the looking glass and entered the dream state of LOST, show created by evil geniuses.
Here's the the simple version:
There's a show within this show about the "Others." The "Others" are souls or spirits that are piggybacking our losties. These "Others" exist on another plane (get it?), and can move around in time, but only in a "dream state," when our losties are remembering or when they are unconscious. The "Others" refer to themselves as angels, jins or memories (as in, not real). They are on a mission to protect Aaron and to find something, I think it's someone's soul, but I'm not clear whose it is or why they need it.
The angels are "martyrs" who've signed up for service. They "hide their faces" from everyone in the world while they do their work. Ben refers to them as "slaves."
These "Others" have names and relationships with each other, but they are restricted by some seriously penalized guidelines. They can separate from their human host, but when they do, they loose all memory from that host. When they arrive in a new host, it takes some time to "download" the new memories AND it's very helpful to have some kind of token, something visual to trigger their own memories from before they jumped. I THINK if they separate on the island and don't have anyone else to jump in to, they die. They are cut off from the universe on the island somehow.
They are also not supposed to manipulate their human host or monkey with his/her life. However, they can do this by "pushing" the host into a dream state (not a good thing). I'm not sure how, but drinking or taking drugs affects the "Others" somehow as well. It might be that it suppresses the "Other" or suppresses the human. I'll get back to you on that one.
The island is not a "real" place per se, but a nexus or blend of dream state and reality. The "Others" are constantly adjusting their experiences by ascertaining whether what happens to them is "real," a "memory" or a "dream."
Get this: the FLASHBACKS aren't real either. That is, the experiences took place, but they are being tampered with by "Others" unfamiliar to our "Others." The FLASH FORWARDS are BOTH dream state AND real, but real with a twist. (More on this later, too).
Here's something interesting as well. "Home," New Otherton to us, isn't real either. It's created by Jacob (I'm not sure how), and he uses memories of our losties and our "Others" to fill in the blanks.
The main crisis they are facing is this: Either the future is "written in stone" or the future is "already changing." The "Others" who want the future to change always notice it's changing because our losties eyes turn green.
As usual, the two sides in conflict on the island come down to Ben and whoever Ben is trying to circumvent. After "316" and "The Life of Jeremy Bentham," I am officially on Ben's side. No matter what he does, I'm thinking he's in it for the long run to fix whatever's broken. And yes, I think this even though he murdered Locke.
Evidence of "Others" and the Dream State
Visual clues on the show:
1. You can see this when you look at their faces. When divided down the middle, the left and right sides never match. In fact, they are usual only lit on one side or the other. (Sawyer's glasses are another good clue.)
(HA! Sorry.)
The right side of the face is the "Other's" side, and the left side is the human side (our losties). Remember Locke's speech to Walt when he holds up the backgammon pieces? This is what he is explaining.
2. The White Rabbit: Rabbits are everywhere, and where do they lead? Directly to the dream world, according to Alice in Wonderland. The are also the clue to Neo (The Matrix) to WAKE UP from the dream. Interesting, since that's what Christian tells Vincent to do to Jack. (Vincent isn't real, by the way. He's a memory.) (Oh yeah, who kills and eats the rabbit? Um, Locke.)
3. The mirrors: Wanna go through the looking glass (by turning off the island's communication blocking signal, maybe)? When Alice went through the looking glass, she, again, entered a dream world. But it was a redundant one: She's dreaming of the Red King while he's dreaming of her.
4. When something happens just in the knick of time (a phone call, a car crash), it's referred to as "dream patrol." No kidding!
I won't go on and on, but you get the idea. The island is the state of directed dreaming (by whom, we're still not sure). The flashbacks are not "real," but tampering with them changes our losties, just like Daniel adding a memory to Desmond (while he was sleeping) changed his course of action. The Flash forwards or existence off the island, well, that depends. Again, we turn to the visual clues:
Kate's Hair.
Man, that Kate. Never can get a fix on her, can we? Wanna know why? Her "Other" is LOST delusion. Everytime we see Kate with really curly hair, she is immersed in the "beautiful dream" of her "Others" creation.
Remember when Jack and Kate are together and everything is perfect? Remember what Hurley says: "It's so perfect. It's like a dream." And we all went, huh? And the producers of LOST came right out and told us that the flashforwards were real, no lie.
The truth is that it depends on whose perspective we're seeing the flashforward from. Jack and Kate (along with their "Others") get off the island; they shack up after the trial. That is all real. However, the life that Jack's living isn't real. His "Other" begins to suspect it when he(they) see(s) Christian. It is a dream created by Kate's "Other." Christian is, again, trying to wake him up.
Remember Jack and Kate's big fight? In the real world they were fighting about Sawyer. But in the "Other" world, he was pissed that she'd created this delusion (not illusion) and tricked him into it. He realizes this right about the time Jack is forcibly knocked out for his appendectomy on the island. Remember how Jack doesn't want to be knocked out WHATSOEVER? Remember how he wants Kate to hold the mirror? It was all to keep the "beautiful dream" intact. Remember how Rose wondered why Jack would get sick on the island? Perhaps it was to "wake him up" from the "beautiful dream."
All Annie wants is to be pregnant. In fact, she's pissed about it when she and Jack first meet in the pilot. She was promised that when she woke up, she'd be "the mother of Aaron." No can do. So what does she do? Eventually, she takes Aaron into the real world, and believes her own lie. BTW, this is why Kate seems SO VERY different now than she was before, when she bolted at the thought of having a baby. (Her husband in that flashback? His "Other" was Ashton.)
When Kate has straight hair, it is the perspective of her from the real world. That's why she seems so crazy, insisting that Aaron is her son and is shocked when Ben reminds her, no he's not!
Kate's hair is a significant clue in "The Life of Jeremy Bentham." Locke, looking quite dapper despite the new wheels, chats with Sayid, who is building homes in South America (the same exact home seen in Widmore's footage). Walt is living large in the city, dreaming of the future, and "no longer necessary" for the island. Hurley is happily hiding in the mental institution, and Kate has super curly hair.
Only after the death of Abbadon and the car accident is Locke sucked out of this dream state. Instead of dapper clothes, he's in a hospital gown. And when he hangs himself, he's back in his island grubbies in a el-crappo apartment, a mere shadow of a man confident in his place and purpose.
Need to know more? Well, I haven't had time to decipher everything, but, I can tell you that in the pilot, Jack's "Other" was Aston, and Sawyer's "Other" was Caleb. Somewhere in the middle, they switch. When I figure out where, I'll let you know. If when they switch back, it would mean that Jack would be the bio daddy of Kate's baby but not the "Other" daddy, Caleb, which would be in Sawyer now. But this is actually a good thing because angels aren't suppose to have feeling for each other like Annie and Ashton do. They definitely aren't supposed to have babies together.
I'm sure curious to see how this works out, aren't you? Curiouser and curiouser, as Alice would say. . .
So why do I support Ben?
I think that the souls (either losties or "Others" that separate on the island are stuck there. I think that the state of your souls is determined by whether you are an innocent murdered (like Libby and Locke), or whether you aren't innocent anymore once you've killed someone (like Jack, Sawyer, Kate, etc). I think Locke had to be murdered in order to do his job once he got back to the island. I think Ben had to murder him for the same reason. If you check closely, you can see Ben say "I'm sorry" as he's strangling Locke to death (an act that echoes when Sawyer kills Locked dad). And remember, Locke FAKED murdering his dad. He never actually killed him. However, he did kill Naomi, but I'm not sure if that counts against him.
SO HERE'S THE BIG QUESTION:
Why didn't the plane crash? Is it because they had the right pilot this time?
(FYI, when Jack is answering questions about Locke's body, his "Other," Caleb, is actually resigning his angel status. It's pretty funny. Also, when he walks by that guy in line, the guy's "Other" says, hey, that's a big deal. Why'd ya do that? And Caleb says, I got a girl pregnant.)
Why did some of them end up on the island, and some of them on the OTHER island where the "Others" did their "work" on Jack, Kate and Sawyer in season 3?
And what's gonna happen with that baby?
So if you made it this far, I'm sure you're wondering, where on EARTH is this coming from? When do these people say all of this?
Well, that would be the evil genius part. I have two things to tell you:
Read lips (turn sound off).
Read each line in chronological order between edits first backwards and then forwards.
That's how to read the "Other" show.
(You'll know for sure if I'm right if Kate's pregnant, so I'm not worried about how farfetched it seems. Go ahead, you Doubting Thomases! I'll just love you for it later!)
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http://lostputtingitalltogether.blogspot.com/ Theory by aohora
Mrs. Hawking doesn't only tell Jack to put his father's shoes on Locke's body. She tells his "Other," Caleb, that he must do something fairly despicable: sleep with his brother's wife (Kate's "Other," Annie) and make sure she's pregnant (raping her if he has to) before they all get on the plane.
He is horrified by her suggestion of rape and concerned that she'll die on the island if she's pregnant. Not to mention, his brother, who's still on the island (Sawyer's "Other," Ashton), will be SUPER pissed about it.
Plus, how's he gonna to get the job done? It's not his body, and if he abandons his human host by "separating," how can he be sure Jack and Kate will do the deed? Mrs. Hawking tells him that "we've already arranged to take Aaron" and that Kate/Annie should be in the right frame of mind. Not to mention, he can just "push" Jack aside during the act.
When Jack/Caleb arrives back at the apartment, he starts (oddly, since it's his house and he should already know where it is) looking for booze. Kate/Annie is waiting for him. Annie has decided to "push" Kate.
"Pushing," by the way, is "immoral" and severely frowned upon. This could explain why when Kate and Jack finally have a passionate moment, it is eerie, and freaky and just "wrong," complete with creepy blue lighting.
This "pushing" will do something else we'll hear back about. Jack and Kate will not remember having sex. They will remember it as a dream, something that didn't really happen.
So when they arrive on island, guess who's pregnant? Yep. And my guess is that even though it's pretty obvious to US that it's Jack's baby, we won't understand why neither Jack nor Sawyer seem to be able to embrace it one way or another OR why Kate simply doesn't know who her baby's daddy is.
Confused? That's totally cool. I was confused too. Then I followed the white rabbit through the looking glass and entered the dream state of LOST, show created by evil geniuses.
Here's the the simple version:
There's a show within this show about the "Others." The "Others" are souls or spirits that are piggybacking our losties. These "Others" exist on another plane (get it?), and can move around in time, but only in a "dream state," when our losties are remembering or when they are unconscious. The "Others" refer to themselves as angels, jins or memories (as in, not real). They are on a mission to protect Aaron and to find something, I think it's someone's soul, but I'm not clear whose it is or why they need it.
The angels are "martyrs" who've signed up for service. They "hide their faces" from everyone in the world while they do their work. Ben refers to them as "slaves."
These "Others" have names and relationships with each other, but they are restricted by some seriously penalized guidelines. They can separate from their human host, but when they do, they loose all memory from that host. When they arrive in a new host, it takes some time to "download" the new memories AND it's very helpful to have some kind of token, something visual to trigger their own memories from before they jumped. I THINK if they separate on the island and don't have anyone else to jump in to, they die. They are cut off from the universe on the island somehow.
They are also not supposed to manipulate their human host or monkey with his/her life. However, they can do this by "pushing" the host into a dream state (not a good thing). I'm not sure how, but drinking or taking drugs affects the "Others" somehow as well. It might be that it suppresses the "Other" or suppresses the human. I'll get back to you on that one.
The island is not a "real" place per se, but a nexus or blend of dream state and reality. The "Others" are constantly adjusting their experiences by ascertaining whether what happens to them is "real," a "memory" or a "dream."
Get this: the FLASHBACKS aren't real either. That is, the experiences took place, but they are being tampered with by "Others" unfamiliar to our "Others." The FLASH FORWARDS are BOTH dream state AND real, but real with a twist. (More on this later, too).
Here's something interesting as well. "Home," New Otherton to us, isn't real either. It's created by Jacob (I'm not sure how), and he uses memories of our losties and our "Others" to fill in the blanks.
The main crisis they are facing is this: Either the future is "written in stone" or the future is "already changing." The "Others" who want the future to change always notice it's changing because our losties eyes turn green.
As usual, the two sides in conflict on the island come down to Ben and whoever Ben is trying to circumvent. After "316" and "The Life of Jeremy Bentham," I am officially on Ben's side. No matter what he does, I'm thinking he's in it for the long run to fix whatever's broken. And yes, I think this even though he murdered Locke.
Evidence of "Others" and the Dream State
Visual clues on the show:
1. You can see this when you look at their faces. When divided down the middle, the left and right sides never match. In fact, they are usual only lit on one side or the other. (Sawyer's glasses are another good clue.)
(HA! Sorry.)
The right side of the face is the "Other's" side, and the left side is the human side (our losties). Remember Locke's speech to Walt when he holds up the backgammon pieces? This is what he is explaining.
2. The White Rabbit: Rabbits are everywhere, and where do they lead? Directly to the dream world, according to Alice in Wonderland. The are also the clue to Neo (The Matrix) to WAKE UP from the dream. Interesting, since that's what Christian tells Vincent to do to Jack. (Vincent isn't real, by the way. He's a memory.) (Oh yeah, who kills and eats the rabbit? Um, Locke.)
3. The mirrors: Wanna go through the looking glass (by turning off the island's communication blocking signal, maybe)? When Alice went through the looking glass, she, again, entered a dream world. But it was a redundant one: She's dreaming of the Red King while he's dreaming of her.
4. When something happens just in the knick of time (a phone call, a car crash), it's referred to as "dream patrol." No kidding!
I won't go on and on, but you get the idea. The island is the state of directed dreaming (by whom, we're still not sure). The flashbacks are not "real," but tampering with them changes our losties, just like Daniel adding a memory to Desmond (while he was sleeping) changed his course of action. The Flash forwards or existence off the island, well, that depends. Again, we turn to the visual clues:
Kate's Hair.
Man, that Kate. Never can get a fix on her, can we? Wanna know why? Her "Other" is LOST delusion. Everytime we see Kate with really curly hair, she is immersed in the "beautiful dream" of her "Others" creation.
Remember when Jack and Kate are together and everything is perfect? Remember what Hurley says: "It's so perfect. It's like a dream." And we all went, huh? And the producers of LOST came right out and told us that the flashforwards were real, no lie.
The truth is that it depends on whose perspective we're seeing the flashforward from. Jack and Kate (along with their "Others") get off the island; they shack up after the trial. That is all real. However, the life that Jack's living isn't real. His "Other" begins to suspect it when he(they) see(s) Christian. It is a dream created by Kate's "Other." Christian is, again, trying to wake him up.
Remember Jack and Kate's big fight? In the real world they were fighting about Sawyer. But in the "Other" world, he was pissed that she'd created this delusion (not illusion) and tricked him into it. He realizes this right about the time Jack is forcibly knocked out for his appendectomy on the island. Remember how Jack doesn't want to be knocked out WHATSOEVER? Remember how he wants Kate to hold the mirror? It was all to keep the "beautiful dream" intact. Remember how Rose wondered why Jack would get sick on the island? Perhaps it was to "wake him up" from the "beautiful dream."
All Annie wants is to be pregnant. In fact, she's pissed about it when she and Jack first meet in the pilot. She was promised that when she woke up, she'd be "the mother of Aaron." No can do. So what does she do? Eventually, she takes Aaron into the real world, and believes her own lie. BTW, this is why Kate seems SO VERY different now than she was before, when she bolted at the thought of having a baby. (Her husband in that flashback? His "Other" was Ashton.)
When Kate has straight hair, it is the perspective of her from the real world. That's why she seems so crazy, insisting that Aaron is her son and is shocked when Ben reminds her, no he's not!
Kate's hair is a significant clue in "The Life of Jeremy Bentham." Locke, looking quite dapper despite the new wheels, chats with Sayid, who is building homes in South America (the same exact home seen in Widmore's footage). Walt is living large in the city, dreaming of the future, and "no longer necessary" for the island. Hurley is happily hiding in the mental institution, and Kate has super curly hair.
Only after the death of Abbadon and the car accident is Locke sucked out of this dream state. Instead of dapper clothes, he's in a hospital gown. And when he hangs himself, he's back in his island grubbies in a el-crappo apartment, a mere shadow of a man confident in his place and purpose.
Need to know more? Well, I haven't had time to decipher everything, but, I can tell you that in the pilot, Jack's "Other" was Aston, and Sawyer's "Other" was Caleb. Somewhere in the middle, they switch. When I figure out where, I'll let you know. If when they switch back, it would mean that Jack would be the bio daddy of Kate's baby but not the "Other" daddy, Caleb, which would be in Sawyer now. But this is actually a good thing because angels aren't suppose to have feeling for each other like Annie and Ashton do. They definitely aren't supposed to have babies together.
I'm sure curious to see how this works out, aren't you? Curiouser and curiouser, as Alice would say. . .
So why do I support Ben?
I think that the souls (either losties or "Others" that separate on the island are stuck there. I think that the state of your souls is determined by whether you are an innocent murdered (like Libby and Locke), or whether you aren't innocent anymore once you've killed someone (like Jack, Sawyer, Kate, etc). I think Locke had to be murdered in order to do his job once he got back to the island. I think Ben had to murder him for the same reason. If you check closely, you can see Ben say "I'm sorry" as he's strangling Locke to death (an act that echoes when Sawyer kills Locked dad). And remember, Locke FAKED murdering his dad. He never actually killed him. However, he did kill Naomi, but I'm not sure if that counts against him.
SO HERE'S THE BIG QUESTION:
Why didn't the plane crash? Is it because they had the right pilot this time?
(FYI, when Jack is answering questions about Locke's body, his "Other," Caleb, is actually resigning his angel status. It's pretty funny. Also, when he walks by that guy in line, the guy's "Other" says, hey, that's a big deal. Why'd ya do that? And Caleb says, I got a girl pregnant.)
Why did some of them end up on the island, and some of them on the OTHER island where the "Others" did their "work" on Jack, Kate and Sawyer in season 3?
And what's gonna happen with that baby?
So if you made it this far, I'm sure you're wondering, where on EARTH is this coming from? When do these people say all of this?
Well, that would be the evil genius part. I have two things to tell you:
Read lips (turn sound off).
Read each line in chronological order between edits first backwards and then forwards.
That's how to read the "Other" show.
(You'll know for sure if I'm right if Kate's pregnant, so I'm not worried about how farfetched it seems. Go ahead, you Doubting Thomases! I'll just love you for it later!)
More info on:
http://lostputtingitalltogether.blogspot.com/ Theory by aohora
