This is an update to my theory (which got good reviews) here:
http://theoriesonlost.blogspot.com/2009/02/schrodinger-death-boxes-and-super.html
As we know, most of the characters cannot alter fate, try as they might. But there is no scientific basis for this course-correcting that is occurring on and off the island. In my original theory, I posited that two time-aware factions are jockeying for control through time over the island, but I'm now certain that I got at least one of them wrong.
Player number one is Locke, only he just doesn't know it yet. If there are two factions who are competing through time by undoing and screwing up each others time-line changes, it would make sense that those who are "special" are so because a future version of themselves are the ones waging this time based war. (Perhaps a future the show hasn't visited yet?)
Imagine for a moment that *everything* we've been shown on Lost happened in the past. The "flash-forwards" are past events, just like the "present" and "flash-backs". The real playing field (time) is being controlled and manipulated by future versions of some of the folks we are familiar with today.
Now, if you're an evil-genius hell bent on taking over the world and you just got yourself a brand new time-machine, you are pretty much unstoppable. Anyone who challenges your rule or power will retroactively be subjected to the grandfather paradox. You are an unstoppable power mad despot who can make certain that only you have access to the time machine. Now, as an unstoppable power mad time traveling evil genius, here are a few recommendations I would like to make:
1. Jump to the near future, to when they cure aging. Trick the inventors into detailing to you exactly how to replicate this feat with past technology, and then kill them so no one else will ever have access to it. (careful not to kill them before they tell you how to do it, wouldn't want to paradox yourself out of living forever)
2. Offer the immortality treat to your most loyal henchmen. Make sure they are well aware that their continued immortality depends on remaining loyal to you. Let them know that even their "death" can be undone and sacrifices of that nature will be highly rewarded when you bring em back. (Which really means just fixing the timeline so they never died in the first place)
3. With your grasp on power certain, you will need to place some of your henchmen in the past as "body guards" over your pre-despot self. You must impress upon them the great care they must take to ensure that they do nothing that could cause you to never become the power hungry evil despot that you are, else they don't get that whole immortality thing. They can't even tell (past) you what they are doing without risking that a more altruistic past version of yourself could have second thoughts and never rise to power.
Well, that certainly explains a lot. Richard doesn't age not because he's from the distant past, but because he was sent to the distant past after receiving the immortality gift from Locke in order to watch over Locke and ensure his rise to power can't be undone by anyone who previously had access to the time machine (or built one of their own). Why does Richard need to give the compass to Locke to return it himself in the past? It doesn't have anything to do with the compass like I originally thought. Instead, it's just Richard's way of ensuring that past Locke doesn't figure out that Richy is working for future evil Locke. Richy 54’ is just pretending not to recognize Locke, else Locke might start to figure out what he’ll become and never become that. You can never be too careful when your immortality is on the line.
Okay, but that's only the setup... here's the payoff:
There can't be a bad guy without a hero character, otherwise we wouldn't have a show. Now, with Locke's team having "course-corrected" his way into ensuring his rise to power, the only way to attack the power mad despot is to catch him before his rise to power. Luckily, you've been studying time-travel your whole life, and maybe have even built yourself a rudimentary one. If you can get yourself or members of your faction into place in history, you might be able to ensure that Locke never attains the power he eventually will crave. Of course, you can't tell those that you recruit the plan without risking that they could just waltz in to Locke's office, trade your name (and your grandfathers) in exchange for the whole immortality treat. No, you've got to be secretive about this else risk the despot preventing your birth and subsequent invention of your own time machine possibly capable of undoing his grasp on power.
All the weird events that occur seem less weird when you consider it is two people/factions battling for ultimate control over the near limitless power source. You might even need to go into the distant past (might as well, you’re immortal) to gain significant advantage. The Black Rock may very well have intended to reach the island (it did after all sail the wrong direction from port). The Captain or First-mate might even be one of our losties! Desmond, who has come to the island by boat before could very well end up back on the island to seek revenge against Ben for killing Penny. And in order to do it, he may have to “get there first” so to speak. What better way than aboard the Black Rock? Is Desmond or Daniel really Magnus Hanso, battling against Locke and his loyal henchmen (ben, richy, etc) for ultimate control of the time traveling device? Is Jacob just another alias for John and Jeremey, to keep previous Lockes from being aware he is being manipulated by himse! lf in the future?Theory by SafariShane
http://theoriesonlost.blogspot.com/2009/02/schrodinger-death-boxes-and-super.html
As we know, most of the characters cannot alter fate, try as they might. But there is no scientific basis for this course-correcting that is occurring on and off the island. In my original theory, I posited that two time-aware factions are jockeying for control through time over the island, but I'm now certain that I got at least one of them wrong.
Player number one is Locke, only he just doesn't know it yet. If there are two factions who are competing through time by undoing and screwing up each others time-line changes, it would make sense that those who are "special" are so because a future version of themselves are the ones waging this time based war. (Perhaps a future the show hasn't visited yet?)
Imagine for a moment that *everything* we've been shown on Lost happened in the past. The "flash-forwards" are past events, just like the "present" and "flash-backs". The real playing field (time) is being controlled and manipulated by future versions of some of the folks we are familiar with today.
Now, if you're an evil-genius hell bent on taking over the world and you just got yourself a brand new time-machine, you are pretty much unstoppable. Anyone who challenges your rule or power will retroactively be subjected to the grandfather paradox. You are an unstoppable power mad despot who can make certain that only you have access to the time machine. Now, as an unstoppable power mad time traveling evil genius, here are a few recommendations I would like to make:
1. Jump to the near future, to when they cure aging. Trick the inventors into detailing to you exactly how to replicate this feat with past technology, and then kill them so no one else will ever have access to it. (careful not to kill them before they tell you how to do it, wouldn't want to paradox yourself out of living forever)
2. Offer the immortality treat to your most loyal henchmen. Make sure they are well aware that their continued immortality depends on remaining loyal to you. Let them know that even their "death" can be undone and sacrifices of that nature will be highly rewarded when you bring em back. (Which really means just fixing the timeline so they never died in the first place)
3. With your grasp on power certain, you will need to place some of your henchmen in the past as "body guards" over your pre-despot self. You must impress upon them the great care they must take to ensure that they do nothing that could cause you to never become the power hungry evil despot that you are, else they don't get that whole immortality thing. They can't even tell (past) you what they are doing without risking that a more altruistic past version of yourself could have second thoughts and never rise to power.
Well, that certainly explains a lot. Richard doesn't age not because he's from the distant past, but because he was sent to the distant past after receiving the immortality gift from Locke in order to watch over Locke and ensure his rise to power can't be undone by anyone who previously had access to the time machine (or built one of their own). Why does Richard need to give the compass to Locke to return it himself in the past? It doesn't have anything to do with the compass like I originally thought. Instead, it's just Richard's way of ensuring that past Locke doesn't figure out that Richy is working for future evil Locke. Richy 54’ is just pretending not to recognize Locke, else Locke might start to figure out what he’ll become and never become that. You can never be too careful when your immortality is on the line.
Okay, but that's only the setup... here's the payoff:
There can't be a bad guy without a hero character, otherwise we wouldn't have a show. Now, with Locke's team having "course-corrected" his way into ensuring his rise to power, the only way to attack the power mad despot is to catch him before his rise to power. Luckily, you've been studying time-travel your whole life, and maybe have even built yourself a rudimentary one. If you can get yourself or members of your faction into place in history, you might be able to ensure that Locke never attains the power he eventually will crave. Of course, you can't tell those that you recruit the plan without risking that they could just waltz in to Locke's office, trade your name (and your grandfathers) in exchange for the whole immortality treat. No, you've got to be secretive about this else risk the despot preventing your birth and subsequent invention of your own time machine possibly capable of undoing his grasp on power.
All the weird events that occur seem less weird when you consider it is two people/factions battling for ultimate control over the near limitless power source. You might even need to go into the distant past (might as well, you’re immortal) to gain significant advantage. The Black Rock may very well have intended to reach the island (it did after all sail the wrong direction from port). The Captain or First-mate might even be one of our losties! Desmond, who has come to the island by boat before could very well end up back on the island to seek revenge against Ben for killing Penny. And in order to do it, he may have to “get there first” so to speak. What better way than aboard the Black Rock? Is Desmond or Daniel really Magnus Hanso, battling against Locke and his loyal henchmen (ben, richy, etc) for ultimate control of the time traveling device? Is Jacob just another alias for John and Jeremey, to keep previous Lockes from being aware he is being manipulated by himse! lf in the future?Theory by SafariShane
