In terms of the island's newest location, a lot of people are saying it moved in "space and time." I agree, but only on the time element. The coordinates of the island haven't changed. You still have to travel on the 305 or 325 or whatever bearing to get safely to and from the island. But the thing is now you can't see it anymore, because it's in a different time... in the future! Here's a connection I just thought of and I'm not sure has been made before:
Think about the Back to the Future movies (in particular, the first one). Remember the scene when Einstein is in the Delorean and time-travels 1 minute into the future. Doc and Marty are standing there talking about everything and then Doc checks his watch and back comes the Delorean, complete with flame tracks and ice cold temperatures. (And how interesting is this parallel: the car is cold, having come from the future, and the cold "tundra" of the frozen donkey wheel used to move the island. Hmmm....) Anyway: The point is that Einstein traveled 1 minute into the future, and it took Marty and Doc 1 minute in time to "catch up" to his time frame. You couldn't see him, the Delorean, or anything else until the present time line caught up with them because he wasn't there yet. The car comes back to the exact spot where it left them just a minute prior.
So, when Ben pushes the wheel, all of us at home, and the O6 in the 'copter, see the island seemingly vanish into thin air. Well, it did... and it didn't. The physical location of the island HAS NOT CHANGED. But it's location in the year, date, time, etc... has changed. It vanished in front of the O6's eyes and I believe went forward in time! I beg to differ with the theories that it's in the past, pre-Dharma. Let me explain and back this up a bit:
When the Black Rock is found crashed in the middle of the island, everyone was like... "WTF is a ship doing in the middle of a jungle?” Here's how it happened:
At some point, the island needed to be moved... I don't know why, but I'm sure we'll find out. And it was up to the native inhabitants of the island (who created the hieroglyphics on the walls and the 4-toed statue) to do so. Well, when they moved it, they moved it forward in time. To the time of 1840-1852 or somewhere in there… whenever the Black Rock set sail from. However, when the move happened it expelled everyone on the island. Essentially, the island is the future, just waiting for the "present time" to catch up to it. Thus, when the Black Rock is sailing, just minding its own business... BAM! Island pops up out of seemingly nowhere.
Since we pretty much can assume the ship was captained by Magnus Hanso and his remains are somewhere on the island, (according the blast door map) it's easy to assume he gave his journal to someone... who got off the island. Who is this mystery person? I have to guess (just because LOST is all about intertwined connections) that it's someone related to the DeGroots. The crew of the Rock and Magnus Hanso searched around and eventually observed and documented the island's powers/smokey, etc... But the powers started wrecking havoc for the crew of the Black Rock and Magnus realized it was time to bolt. But like a good captain, he couldn't leave his crew. So he sent the DeGroot family member off the island to try and get help and also sent him with his journal with specific instructions to get it to his family.
On the island: Magnus is the only one that dies. And with the magnetic anomalies of the island, it's likely his crew are the original "Others." Richard not aging, (none of the other ones seem to age either) is because of the properties of the island... whatever they may be. Magnus is killed by smokey, much like Eko was because he didn't atone for something he did... whatever that may be... it was just "his time."
So he took off (the DeGroot guy) and somehow got back to the main-lands and shared his experiences, which most of them were well documented in the journal. He then proceeded to get this information to the Hanso family members. Alvar isn’t born yet, it’s only 1852 (or so) for pete’s sake. It’s Alvar’s dad(who is very young at this point) that gets the journal and info from this person who got off the island. Then the DeGroot person dies and leaves all the secrets with the Hanso family. Alvar is then "waiting" for the DeGroots to make their move from the University of Michigan and start their genetic research project. He recognizes the last name, realizes this is his chance to get back to the place that's been a fabled part of his family and finances everything for them. The result? The Dharma Initiative.
I'm not sure why Charles Widmore wants the journal and bought it @ the auction, but maybe he was once on the island (as many have said)... I'm just not sure. Maybe he's a descendant of the Hanso clan? I dunno.
It's kinda scatter brained, but just some other stuff I've worked out. it's got a lot of work to go, but it's a start and a potential theory to explain the Black Rock and everything. I'm working on the rest of the theory, hopefully have something more soon.
your thoughts?
Theory by WNGYPSY
Think about the Back to the Future movies (in particular, the first one). Remember the scene when Einstein is in the Delorean and time-travels 1 minute into the future. Doc and Marty are standing there talking about everything and then Doc checks his watch and back comes the Delorean, complete with flame tracks and ice cold temperatures. (And how interesting is this parallel: the car is cold, having come from the future, and the cold "tundra" of the frozen donkey wheel used to move the island. Hmmm....) Anyway: The point is that Einstein traveled 1 minute into the future, and it took Marty and Doc 1 minute in time to "catch up" to his time frame. You couldn't see him, the Delorean, or anything else until the present time line caught up with them because he wasn't there yet. The car comes back to the exact spot where it left them just a minute prior.
So, when Ben pushes the wheel, all of us at home, and the O6 in the 'copter, see the island seemingly vanish into thin air. Well, it did... and it didn't. The physical location of the island HAS NOT CHANGED. But it's location in the year, date, time, etc... has changed. It vanished in front of the O6's eyes and I believe went forward in time! I beg to differ with the theories that it's in the past, pre-Dharma. Let me explain and back this up a bit:
When the Black Rock is found crashed in the middle of the island, everyone was like... "WTF is a ship doing in the middle of a jungle?” Here's how it happened:
At some point, the island needed to be moved... I don't know why, but I'm sure we'll find out. And it was up to the native inhabitants of the island (who created the hieroglyphics on the walls and the 4-toed statue) to do so. Well, when they moved it, they moved it forward in time. To the time of 1840-1852 or somewhere in there… whenever the Black Rock set sail from. However, when the move happened it expelled everyone on the island. Essentially, the island is the future, just waiting for the "present time" to catch up to it. Thus, when the Black Rock is sailing, just minding its own business... BAM! Island pops up out of seemingly nowhere.
Since we pretty much can assume the ship was captained by Magnus Hanso and his remains are somewhere on the island, (according the blast door map) it's easy to assume he gave his journal to someone... who got off the island. Who is this mystery person? I have to guess (just because LOST is all about intertwined connections) that it's someone related to the DeGroots. The crew of the Rock and Magnus Hanso searched around and eventually observed and documented the island's powers/smokey, etc... But the powers started wrecking havoc for the crew of the Black Rock and Magnus realized it was time to bolt. But like a good captain, he couldn't leave his crew. So he sent the DeGroot family member off the island to try and get help and also sent him with his journal with specific instructions to get it to his family.
On the island: Magnus is the only one that dies. And with the magnetic anomalies of the island, it's likely his crew are the original "Others." Richard not aging, (none of the other ones seem to age either) is because of the properties of the island... whatever they may be. Magnus is killed by smokey, much like Eko was because he didn't atone for something he did... whatever that may be... it was just "his time."
So he took off (the DeGroot guy) and somehow got back to the main-lands and shared his experiences, which most of them were well documented in the journal. He then proceeded to get this information to the Hanso family members. Alvar isn’t born yet, it’s only 1852 (or so) for pete’s sake. It’s Alvar’s dad(who is very young at this point) that gets the journal and info from this person who got off the island. Then the DeGroot person dies and leaves all the secrets with the Hanso family. Alvar is then "waiting" for the DeGroots to make their move from the University of Michigan and start their genetic research project. He recognizes the last name, realizes this is his chance to get back to the place that's been a fabled part of his family and finances everything for them. The result? The Dharma Initiative.
I'm not sure why Charles Widmore wants the journal and bought it @ the auction, but maybe he was once on the island (as many have said)... I'm just not sure. Maybe he's a descendant of the Hanso clan? I dunno.
It's kinda scatter brained, but just some other stuff I've worked out. it's got a lot of work to go, but it's a start and a potential theory to explain the Black Rock and everything. I'm working on the rest of the theory, hopefully have something more soon.
your thoughts?
Theory by WNGYPSY
