Moving The Island Back In Time = Losties Becoming Dharma Residents In Season 5
Alright now here's a theory that actually kept me up last night so I could wrap my brain around it. It's simple yet complicated, and freezes the donkey wheel.
I started thinking about what the hell The Orchid Station anf moving the island have to do with each other. If Locke & Ben want to physically move the island, just sending it down a few nautical miles wouldn't stop Widmore from finding it. Maybe they'll try and sink it, and have it reach the unseen underground city? That idea was just too out of place for me, so I moved on.
What if they moved it throughout time? Ben said himself that moving the island was both dangerous and unpredictable, meaning that if they were to move it, the island and its' inhabitants could end up anywhere in time. I'm talking old Black Rock days, or possibly the future. Hell they might even move it to when Jack first awoke on the island in season 1, but that's not where I'm going with this.
Either by way of accident or just plain course bearings, I believe that the island will move back about 20 years or so, to the middle of The Dharma Initiative days. It was during these times that the protective electromagnetic shield was still in effect, thus making the island difficult to find. Now imagine people like Locke, Sawyer, Juliet, Charlotte, Miles, Daniel, Rose, Bernard and other red shirts all traveling back to the days when Dharma started working on their projects. Would they become scientists? Juliet, Daniel and a few others would be helpful. If they needed a dentist Bernard would be a shoe in. The kicker here is that Locke, who has such a communication with the island, always wanted to be the leader and do things in the island's best interest. Now, he has the opportunity to do what he tried to shun away in his youth; learning the ways of the island.
I believe this would be a really cool story to have running for season 5. Flashbacks and flashforwards wouldn't technically exist anymore because the format of the show could be the characters interacting with the D.I. in the 70's or 80's, while our Oceanic 6 members deal with life off the island at the exact same time. Does this occurance mean that no matter what anybody does in the past, the future will not change? Or will one of our Losties possibly be responsible for "the incident?" All I can say is course correction.
As cool as this theory may or may not be, there is the impending paradoxes that may occur. If Ben traveled back into a time where either he was a kid, or he was just starting to gain control, than that would cause a paradox if those two Bens met. An example of this would be in the Orchid Orientation Video where the 2 bunnies were in the same room and Candle/Halowax/Wickman freaked out and hoped they wouldn't see each other. What would happen if 2 Bens met at the same time? But think about this; In Ben's most recent centric episode, he landed in the desert seemingly wounded and possibly frightened. However, he wanted to make sure the date was correct with the clerk at the counter, asking if it was October 2005, meaning that if he were to travel back in time on the island and try to transport off of it, while time on Earth stayed the same he would end up in the future, which is still the present to us and The Oceanic Six.
Sayid's response to there being absolutely no way anyone could be left on the island might be due to possibly watching as the island just vanished, thinking it was gone forever, when it reality the cloak was put back on and it is just back in time. I believe Daniel knows exactly what The Orchid can do. In his journel above his drawing there is a phrase that said "space like factors" with some math, so I'm assuming the reason they have to leave isn't because of the people dying, but it's because he doesn't want to leave the present.
This also means we could re-meet people we never got the chance to fully understand. People like Tom, Ethan, Horace, Richard, and even Danielle. Her story has always been a mystery and now we might get a chance to find out what really happened to her crew.
Another paradox that's been bugging me is if people like Richard and his band of Others go back in time, most of those people were already there. Did Ben warn them about The Orchid about to be put to use? What would happen if one Richard meets another Richard? I honestly have no idea. I don't think space and time would bend itself, but I don't think one would cancel the other out either. I just think it would be great to see Sawyer, Miles, Faraday, Juliet and others having to dawn Dharma suits and learn answers to questions by living through them. Jin would be an interesting choice to go back too. I would be sad if Desmond went, only because he's been through so much on the island already, but Michael, never wanting to go back to the island, having to leave the boat due to the explosives, only to get sent back in time would be incredible.
So what needs to happen for The O6 to get back? Ben has to slip up and Sayid must uncover the fact of transporting to and from the island. While Sun's new plans to help find the island with Jack, Hurly, and maybe Kate need to come to fruition, Sayid would be the best candidate to go back to the island, find The Orchid, and put it back to its' original time, thus saving all our Lostie favorites.
To finish up here, some may be wondering how this relates to the Frozen Donkey Wheel. Well think about last year's codename: The snake in the mailbox. That wasn't relating to the characters on the island, that was related to us. We were so used to seeing flashbacks regularly (going to get your mail, something you do daily) that when the flashforward was involved you didn't expect to see it (just like you wouldn't expect a snake to be hanging out in your mailbox). Now as far as the wheel from sir donkey that isn't melted, the progression of the island story is actually the thing that is frozen. I hope this makes sense to you guys. If you dig it, awesome. If you want to add to it, fantastic. Any comments would be appreciated.
Thanks for reading
- Greyson Flax
Theory by WNGYPSY
Alright now here's a theory that actually kept me up last night so I could wrap my brain around it. It's simple yet complicated, and freezes the donkey wheel.
I started thinking about what the hell The Orchid Station anf moving the island have to do with each other. If Locke & Ben want to physically move the island, just sending it down a few nautical miles wouldn't stop Widmore from finding it. Maybe they'll try and sink it, and have it reach the unseen underground city? That idea was just too out of place for me, so I moved on.
What if they moved it throughout time? Ben said himself that moving the island was both dangerous and unpredictable, meaning that if they were to move it, the island and its' inhabitants could end up anywhere in time. I'm talking old Black Rock days, or possibly the future. Hell they might even move it to when Jack first awoke on the island in season 1, but that's not where I'm going with this.
Either by way of accident or just plain course bearings, I believe that the island will move back about 20 years or so, to the middle of The Dharma Initiative days. It was during these times that the protective electromagnetic shield was still in effect, thus making the island difficult to find. Now imagine people like Locke, Sawyer, Juliet, Charlotte, Miles, Daniel, Rose, Bernard and other red shirts all traveling back to the days when Dharma started working on their projects. Would they become scientists? Juliet, Daniel and a few others would be helpful. If they needed a dentist Bernard would be a shoe in. The kicker here is that Locke, who has such a communication with the island, always wanted to be the leader and do things in the island's best interest. Now, he has the opportunity to do what he tried to shun away in his youth; learning the ways of the island.
I believe this would be a really cool story to have running for season 5. Flashbacks and flashforwards wouldn't technically exist anymore because the format of the show could be the characters interacting with the D.I. in the 70's or 80's, while our Oceanic 6 members deal with life off the island at the exact same time. Does this occurance mean that no matter what anybody does in the past, the future will not change? Or will one of our Losties possibly be responsible for "the incident?" All I can say is course correction.
As cool as this theory may or may not be, there is the impending paradoxes that may occur. If Ben traveled back into a time where either he was a kid, or he was just starting to gain control, than that would cause a paradox if those two Bens met. An example of this would be in the Orchid Orientation Video where the 2 bunnies were in the same room and Candle/Halowax/Wickman freaked out and hoped they wouldn't see each other. What would happen if 2 Bens met at the same time? But think about this; In Ben's most recent centric episode, he landed in the desert seemingly wounded and possibly frightened. However, he wanted to make sure the date was correct with the clerk at the counter, asking if it was October 2005, meaning that if he were to travel back in time on the island and try to transport off of it, while time on Earth stayed the same he would end up in the future, which is still the present to us and The Oceanic Six.
Sayid's response to there being absolutely no way anyone could be left on the island might be due to possibly watching as the island just vanished, thinking it was gone forever, when it reality the cloak was put back on and it is just back in time. I believe Daniel knows exactly what The Orchid can do. In his journel above his drawing there is a phrase that said "space like factors" with some math, so I'm assuming the reason they have to leave isn't because of the people dying, but it's because he doesn't want to leave the present.
This also means we could re-meet people we never got the chance to fully understand. People like Tom, Ethan, Horace, Richard, and even Danielle. Her story has always been a mystery and now we might get a chance to find out what really happened to her crew.
Another paradox that's been bugging me is if people like Richard and his band of Others go back in time, most of those people were already there. Did Ben warn them about The Orchid about to be put to use? What would happen if one Richard meets another Richard? I honestly have no idea. I don't think space and time would bend itself, but I don't think one would cancel the other out either. I just think it would be great to see Sawyer, Miles, Faraday, Juliet and others having to dawn Dharma suits and learn answers to questions by living through them. Jin would be an interesting choice to go back too. I would be sad if Desmond went, only because he's been through so much on the island already, but Michael, never wanting to go back to the island, having to leave the boat due to the explosives, only to get sent back in time would be incredible.
So what needs to happen for The O6 to get back? Ben has to slip up and Sayid must uncover the fact of transporting to and from the island. While Sun's new plans to help find the island with Jack, Hurly, and maybe Kate need to come to fruition, Sayid would be the best candidate to go back to the island, find The Orchid, and put it back to its' original time, thus saving all our Lostie favorites.
To finish up here, some may be wondering how this relates to the Frozen Donkey Wheel. Well think about last year's codename: The snake in the mailbox. That wasn't relating to the characters on the island, that was related to us. We were so used to seeing flashbacks regularly (going to get your mail, something you do daily) that when the flashforward was involved you didn't expect to see it (just like you wouldn't expect a snake to be hanging out in your mailbox). Now as far as the wheel from sir donkey that isn't melted, the progression of the island story is actually the thing that is frozen. I hope this makes sense to you guys. If you dig it, awesome. If you want to add to it, fantastic. Any comments would be appreciated.
Thanks for reading
- Greyson Flax
Theory by WNGYPSY
