To all the "WH, H..." Go Read Some Stephen King, A Change in History is Actually Not a Lame Story!
I don't understand why you all think the show would be ruined if you learned of someone'e crummy life history, and that person could go back into time and change things for themselves, and everyone else for the better.
Sounds like a great story to me! Everything is still validated because it's that season 1-4 past experience of everyone that inspires their epic journey in time. You actually need to know of Kate's Sadness, Locke's Desperation, Jack's sensible duty.... it ties you to them and where their hearts are to lead them to take their journey in the first place. If they change things, you think their past "doesn't" happen. Well physically maybe yes, maybe no, but mentally, that past of theirs made them who they are. It's in their hearts. And that as a story element is worth it's weight in gold.
Just think Stephen King, who is pretty much the most influential writer on our Lost creators, and his style is countlessly mimicked in story format of how they do Lost (as we know TPTB are HUGE fans, and Mr. King has called Lost his favorite show at one point.) Lost always puts in references to his work. I've read all the guys books, and it's neat to draw the parallels.
Stephen King is not a WH,H kind of writer. You can change his pasts.
Most of his better stories, typically a giant event occurs that sparks a journey in people, and people are forced to rally up
The Stand, a flu wipes out most of humanity. The remaining people form this evil group, and the few good left rise up against it.
Tommyknockers, a spaceship crashlands on earth, it's mysterious energy and power source is harnessed by some people to the point that it consumes them (very similar to Lost in a way)
But most impressive is the Dark Tower. Crimson King is destroying the beams leading to the tower, Roland the Hero travels through time to collect his ka-tet (group of warriors). And they battle the Crimson King and his cronies at different points in time, changing the future as they do so, to prevent the Tower from falling. Roland know's it's his destiny to do all of this.
It was arguably King's best work. Great story too. Lost, well we have Ben and Widmore collecting fighters from all over time to stage one final epic battle to change the outcome of history.
Now, lets assume you can't change the history on our island, and say there is always an incident and there is always a war, but the winner might be someone different each iteration. And the battle is just fought for the bragging rights inbetween. It's just like the Bible. Revelation predicts that Satan will rise up and challenge God at Armageddon to a war, and he will lose. If he knew he was going to lose, why would he even try to fight? Why do people try to paddle the inevitable? Fate peddlers and philosophers throughout history attributed this to arrogance. Arrogance has no logic, if a man believes he is a god, he will let the thirst for power overcome even the simplest of logic. It's such a cliche in most hero-tales that the villian is always a blind slave to his own desires, and he always loses to the inevitable. But you know what, at the end of the day, that battle against the inevitable is still a good story too!
If that's the case in Lost, then we are just watching a story of an endless struggle that really is fueled by human pride and arrogance that they can become God's themselves and overcome the ebb and flow of time and fate.
To me being able to change your own fate (the REAL WH,H battle)sounds so much more exciting than "you already know what's going to happen and who's going to win, so shut up and just experience the predictableness!"
But to each his own.
Don't get your hopes up WH,H! Us "Others" and our belief in a story of a changeable hero's tale is actually a pretty damn good tale! Theory by matt
I don't understand why you all think the show would be ruined if you learned of someone'e crummy life history, and that person could go back into time and change things for themselves, and everyone else for the better.
Sounds like a great story to me! Everything is still validated because it's that season 1-4 past experience of everyone that inspires their epic journey in time. You actually need to know of Kate's Sadness, Locke's Desperation, Jack's sensible duty.... it ties you to them and where their hearts are to lead them to take their journey in the first place. If they change things, you think their past "doesn't" happen. Well physically maybe yes, maybe no, but mentally, that past of theirs made them who they are. It's in their hearts. And that as a story element is worth it's weight in gold.
Just think Stephen King, who is pretty much the most influential writer on our Lost creators, and his style is countlessly mimicked in story format of how they do Lost (as we know TPTB are HUGE fans, and Mr. King has called Lost his favorite show at one point.) Lost always puts in references to his work. I've read all the guys books, and it's neat to draw the parallels.
Stephen King is not a WH,H kind of writer. You can change his pasts.
Most of his better stories, typically a giant event occurs that sparks a journey in people, and people are forced to rally up
The Stand, a flu wipes out most of humanity. The remaining people form this evil group, and the few good left rise up against it.
Tommyknockers, a spaceship crashlands on earth, it's mysterious energy and power source is harnessed by some people to the point that it consumes them (very similar to Lost in a way)
But most impressive is the Dark Tower. Crimson King is destroying the beams leading to the tower, Roland the Hero travels through time to collect his ka-tet (group of warriors). And they battle the Crimson King and his cronies at different points in time, changing the future as they do so, to prevent the Tower from falling. Roland know's it's his destiny to do all of this.
It was arguably King's best work. Great story too. Lost, well we have Ben and Widmore collecting fighters from all over time to stage one final epic battle to change the outcome of history.
Now, lets assume you can't change the history on our island, and say there is always an incident and there is always a war, but the winner might be someone different each iteration. And the battle is just fought for the bragging rights inbetween. It's just like the Bible. Revelation predicts that Satan will rise up and challenge God at Armageddon to a war, and he will lose. If he knew he was going to lose, why would he even try to fight? Why do people try to paddle the inevitable? Fate peddlers and philosophers throughout history attributed this to arrogance. Arrogance has no logic, if a man believes he is a god, he will let the thirst for power overcome even the simplest of logic. It's such a cliche in most hero-tales that the villian is always a blind slave to his own desires, and he always loses to the inevitable. But you know what, at the end of the day, that battle against the inevitable is still a good story too!
If that's the case in Lost, then we are just watching a story of an endless struggle that really is fueled by human pride and arrogance that they can become God's themselves and overcome the ebb and flow of time and fate.
To me being able to change your own fate (the REAL WH,H battle)sounds so much more exciting than "you already know what's going to happen and who's going to win, so shut up and just experience the predictableness!"
But to each his own.
Don't get your hopes up WH,H! Us "Others" and our belief in a story of a changeable hero's tale is actually a pretty damn good tale! Theory by matt
