After watching this past episode "The life and death of Jeremy Bentham" I feel that Ben could still be the good guy...kinda. Ben's only flaw is his jealousy issues. He sent Goodwin to his death because of his love for Juliet. For that action the island gave him a dose of reality by giving him a tumor. Fortunatly for Ben, Jack was the there to fix it.
Ben's jealousy towards Locke was also an issue in the beginning. He knew his people thought he was special and I don't think he was ready to except that fact just yet. Before this past episode I wasn't totally sold that Locke was the leader, after the "Jughead" episode it seemed that Locke was only special because he was told by everyone on the island that he was. Then he time shifts back to 1954 and tell Richard that he is special. So is it Locke that got the ball rolling on that "I'm special" that makes everyone in the future tell him he's special? Although the new episode of him resurrected makes me think that it is a possibility that he could be special.
Back to Ben. He was also jealous of Karl and sent him off to die although I'm not sure if he knew that Danielle was also going to die. After all of his jealousy he gets a real dose of reality. He loses another thing he truly cared about...his daughter. Ben has lost a lot in his past, his mother, his childhood friend(Annie), his love for Juliet and now Alex. All of which he has taken revenge on the people who took them away from him. I think we will find out what happened with Annie.
Dispite what Christian told Locke about moving the island, I think that Ben knew he had to do this. This was his task to take for all that he has done. He had to leave "Eden" as punishment, he knew that he had to go and redeem himself off the island. There is something about Ben that makes him special, he seems to always knows what will happen next, he seems to know where he needs to be and he always has a plan. There is something to that I'm sure.
So far off the island he has kept tabs on the O6 for the three years and I believe he has kept them safe even using Sayid to do so. After this week episode he knew that Locke could not commit suicide in order to get back to the island, he had to die and Ben knew he had to do it. Ben had to carry on Locke's mission to get the O6 back to the island and did so. His return to the island will be very interesting to me. Will he have redeemed himself for the island to take him back.
Now Widmore, I truly believe this man to be an evil, angry guy. If we start from the beginning of what we've seen so far he is a guy who wanted to be something but just isn't and that's what eats at him. In 1954, he was angered by the fact that an old man (Locke) knew the island better then he did. I believe he strong armed his way and made himself the leader even though he wasn't destined to be. Somehow Richard and Co. had to follow him possibly against their will. I believe Widmore did want to exploit the island like what Ben told Locke in season 4. Widmore could have been the one who brought in the Dharma Initiative to run all these tests on the island. Maybe Richard had to play along because he knew that this would bring in their next true leader Ben. Somewhere during this time frame Widmore and Eloise/Ellie was ousted and the DI was eliminated shortly after, thanks to Ben. I wouldn't be surpised at all if we are to learn that Widmore (through his anger or hunger for po! wer) accidently released the smoke monster from it's liar at the temple.
Off the island now, Widmore must have known that he needed to find Desmond. I don't know why I think this but I came to this conclusion after Faraday met his mom (Ellie/Eloise) in 1954 and said he was from the future and I'm guessing she became a beliver in time travel after Daniel disappeared shortly after that. Ellie and Widmore were together on that island at the same time in 1954 so there is that connection. I gather that Eloise encouraged her son in studying this time travel type of science growing up and Widmore probably funded it every step of the way to even include his whole Oxford education. Why? Because of Desmond. Desmond is Daniel's constant. Eloise knew that Desmond's destiny was to push that button for three years. Did she learn this from her son Daniel? Did Widmore use Faraday's knowledge of the future and send Penny to that monestary knowing that she would meet Desmond? Have him apart of her life fall in love then belittle him whenever he got the chance. M! aking him feel he needed to gain his honor back by racing around the world by boat knowing he will crash on "his" lost island.
Widmore's people in that bunker in the blizzard at the end of season 2 got a snapshot of the general location of the island. He can now get his freighter ready. What Widmore didn't expect though is that someone called Penny at that same time to let her know as well.
Key to Charlie being able to warn the others before dying.
Widmore's first attempt: The Freighter
Naomi was instructed by Abbadon to gather all the loose ends Daniel Faraday(Eloise's time traveling son), Charlotte Lewis(Born on the Island), Miles(Born on the Island) & Frank Lapidus(The guy who was suppose to fly 815) on the freighter. I feel that the plan from Widmore was to send the science guys in first to disable the gas then send in the mercenaries after that to wipe out the others, the survivors of 815 and including the loose ends that I mentioned from the frieghter. Again it wasn't a success for Widmore thanks to Ben having a man on the inside, something Widmore could not foresee. His chance to reclaim the island failed.
But as a the door shuts a window opens. The group that wasn't suppose to leave...The Oceanic 6. Widmore's second chance to get the island back. I have to think that Eloise & Widmore are in this together, both of them have a strong interest in the island but neither of them are actively involved in getting to the island themselves. Widmore sends an army in but he himself stays back? Why? Is there something preventing him to set foot on the island? Does the island have to be clear of something before he can venture on it? What about Ellie? Why doesn't she try to get back? She seems to have all the information but no interest? Come on!
I feel that the interest of getting the O6 back to the island benefits both parties Ben/Locke - to protect the island from others and Widmore/Eloise - to take the island for power. It's the window both of them have. Unfortunalty the O6 are heading into a war without knowing it.
Ajira flight 316 not only had the O6 but I believe the majority of the tail section is another set of Widmore's mercenaries. I'm assuming that Jack, Hurley & Kate disappeared into seventies during the DI's hay day (Thanks to Jin showing up in a Dharma van). I think Frank landed the plane on the other island that Kate & Sawyer help build that runway. Something must have tipped of Frank and Sun (possibly the disappearence of their friends) to make them take that canoe and high tail it out of there. I would also assume that they eventually get to the original beach camp and warn the remaining 815 survivor's that trouble is heading their way. It would explain why Sawyer, juliet, Locke, Charlotte, Faraday & Miles found nobody there except two canoes and an empty Ajira water bottle. I wonder if we will see something to the effect of "resurrected Locke" trying to slows down Widmore's men in chasing after the other canoe with his past self, knowing he would only have to ! delay them just long enough for his past self to time shift out of there.
My last thought goes back to Ben, this second attempt at the island by Widmore has something in common with his first attempt. Ben has a man on the inside...Caesar. Theory by Goodwin
Ben's jealousy towards Locke was also an issue in the beginning. He knew his people thought he was special and I don't think he was ready to except that fact just yet. Before this past episode I wasn't totally sold that Locke was the leader, after the "Jughead" episode it seemed that Locke was only special because he was told by everyone on the island that he was. Then he time shifts back to 1954 and tell Richard that he is special. So is it Locke that got the ball rolling on that "I'm special" that makes everyone in the future tell him he's special? Although the new episode of him resurrected makes me think that it is a possibility that he could be special.
Back to Ben. He was also jealous of Karl and sent him off to die although I'm not sure if he knew that Danielle was also going to die. After all of his jealousy he gets a real dose of reality. He loses another thing he truly cared about...his daughter. Ben has lost a lot in his past, his mother, his childhood friend(Annie), his love for Juliet and now Alex. All of which he has taken revenge on the people who took them away from him. I think we will find out what happened with Annie.
Dispite what Christian told Locke about moving the island, I think that Ben knew he had to do this. This was his task to take for all that he has done. He had to leave "Eden" as punishment, he knew that he had to go and redeem himself off the island. There is something about Ben that makes him special, he seems to always knows what will happen next, he seems to know where he needs to be and he always has a plan. There is something to that I'm sure.
So far off the island he has kept tabs on the O6 for the three years and I believe he has kept them safe even using Sayid to do so. After this week episode he knew that Locke could not commit suicide in order to get back to the island, he had to die and Ben knew he had to do it. Ben had to carry on Locke's mission to get the O6 back to the island and did so. His return to the island will be very interesting to me. Will he have redeemed himself for the island to take him back.
Now Widmore, I truly believe this man to be an evil, angry guy. If we start from the beginning of what we've seen so far he is a guy who wanted to be something but just isn't and that's what eats at him. In 1954, he was angered by the fact that an old man (Locke) knew the island better then he did. I believe he strong armed his way and made himself the leader even though he wasn't destined to be. Somehow Richard and Co. had to follow him possibly against their will. I believe Widmore did want to exploit the island like what Ben told Locke in season 4. Widmore could have been the one who brought in the Dharma Initiative to run all these tests on the island. Maybe Richard had to play along because he knew that this would bring in their next true leader Ben. Somewhere during this time frame Widmore and Eloise/Ellie was ousted and the DI was eliminated shortly after, thanks to Ben. I wouldn't be surpised at all if we are to learn that Widmore (through his anger or hunger for po! wer) accidently released the smoke monster from it's liar at the temple.
Off the island now, Widmore must have known that he needed to find Desmond. I don't know why I think this but I came to this conclusion after Faraday met his mom (Ellie/Eloise) in 1954 and said he was from the future and I'm guessing she became a beliver in time travel after Daniel disappeared shortly after that. Ellie and Widmore were together on that island at the same time in 1954 so there is that connection. I gather that Eloise encouraged her son in studying this time travel type of science growing up and Widmore probably funded it every step of the way to even include his whole Oxford education. Why? Because of Desmond. Desmond is Daniel's constant. Eloise knew that Desmond's destiny was to push that button for three years. Did she learn this from her son Daniel? Did Widmore use Faraday's knowledge of the future and send Penny to that monestary knowing that she would meet Desmond? Have him apart of her life fall in love then belittle him whenever he got the chance. M! aking him feel he needed to gain his honor back by racing around the world by boat knowing he will crash on "his" lost island.
Widmore's people in that bunker in the blizzard at the end of season 2 got a snapshot of the general location of the island. He can now get his freighter ready. What Widmore didn't expect though is that someone called Penny at that same time to let her know as well.
Key to Charlie being able to warn the others before dying.
Widmore's first attempt: The Freighter
Naomi was instructed by Abbadon to gather all the loose ends Daniel Faraday(Eloise's time traveling son), Charlotte Lewis(Born on the Island), Miles(Born on the Island) & Frank Lapidus(The guy who was suppose to fly 815) on the freighter. I feel that the plan from Widmore was to send the science guys in first to disable the gas then send in the mercenaries after that to wipe out the others, the survivors of 815 and including the loose ends that I mentioned from the frieghter. Again it wasn't a success for Widmore thanks to Ben having a man on the inside, something Widmore could not foresee. His chance to reclaim the island failed.
But as a the door shuts a window opens. The group that wasn't suppose to leave...The Oceanic 6. Widmore's second chance to get the island back. I have to think that Eloise & Widmore are in this together, both of them have a strong interest in the island but neither of them are actively involved in getting to the island themselves. Widmore sends an army in but he himself stays back? Why? Is there something preventing him to set foot on the island? Does the island have to be clear of something before he can venture on it? What about Ellie? Why doesn't she try to get back? She seems to have all the information but no interest? Come on!
I feel that the interest of getting the O6 back to the island benefits both parties Ben/Locke - to protect the island from others and Widmore/Eloise - to take the island for power. It's the window both of them have. Unfortunalty the O6 are heading into a war without knowing it.
Ajira flight 316 not only had the O6 but I believe the majority of the tail section is another set of Widmore's mercenaries. I'm assuming that Jack, Hurley & Kate disappeared into seventies during the DI's hay day (Thanks to Jin showing up in a Dharma van). I think Frank landed the plane on the other island that Kate & Sawyer help build that runway. Something must have tipped of Frank and Sun (possibly the disappearence of their friends) to make them take that canoe and high tail it out of there. I would also assume that they eventually get to the original beach camp and warn the remaining 815 survivor's that trouble is heading their way. It would explain why Sawyer, juliet, Locke, Charlotte, Faraday & Miles found nobody there except two canoes and an empty Ajira water bottle. I wonder if we will see something to the effect of "resurrected Locke" trying to slows down Widmore's men in chasing after the other canoe with his past self, knowing he would only have to ! delay them just long enough for his past self to time shift out of there.
My last thought goes back to Ben, this second attempt at the island by Widmore has something in common with his first attempt. Ben has a man on the inside...Caesar. Theory by Goodwin
