Is there is a still point in the story around which everything else appears to revolve?
I get the feeling something is amiss (See the end of this rant for more on that). Something needs fixed. There is some timeline course correction bandied about that may be related to "the incident" and, perhaps, even "the purge"-- what, with our jolly gang now galavanting around Dharma camp in the seventies. There have been strong theories and indicators that the island, or time on the island, may be stuck in a loop, repeating something over and over. Perhaps this loop is created to prevent time going so far as to initiate some man-made grand paradox or anomaly that could destroy the world. You know man when he gets something with power in his hands. He screws it up. Nuclear energy being a case in point. Exotic matter can only be worse.
I've had this idea of a still point in mind for a while now. I recently started rewatching the entire show, starting with season 1. I am now 4 episodes into season 2 and, it was there that I saw something that clicked. Regardless of it turning out to be THE still point as the show develops, it is, in fact, the still point around which everything else revolves. In other words, without this one little event, there would be no show.
If it's not THE event, what follows here may still apply to any event which is focal , yet sets things out of whack. And that, you will see, is the rub.
Early in S2, we find Jack and Locke confronting Desmond about pushing the button, demanding that he explain what is going on. He describes his arrival, the orientation film, and the button pushing every 108 minutes. Jack asks why keep pressing it? "To save the world." is Desmond's matter-of-fact reply. That's when it hit me. To save the world from what? Our losties, that's what.
We've run across this theme (Saving the world) before. Hawking says "God help us all" if the O6 fail. This implies off-island effects. There is also a growning sense of urgency that something needs done or else we're all doomed. Not just our time walkers on-island. There are a lot of people and tons of resources/money involved in the Oceanic losties off island as well as on. Since something is screwed up, they must first be directed to get on 815, not to initiate the problem, but to correct it this time.
Flight 815 crashed because Desmond did not push the button in time. Had he pushed that button in time, 815 would not have crashed, we'd have no losties stuck in Dharma time, no rope sticking out of the ground in ancient times (The ancients must have been the ones who build the well, initially. They either found Charlotte's body, or Charlotte alive, and the rope sticking out of the ground nearby, and dug it up, revealing the exotic matter and thus it all may have begun.), no Le Fleur, no Farady, No Skate/Jate, no message boards, no numbers (no others?)--nothing but a plane flying over an invisible island, successfully and uneventfully on it's way to LA, (maybe a bit off course) while, below, our Desmond pushes away (if even that!).
If you've gotten this far and are buying any of this, you probably have some questions. For, either the losties must be on the island initially and have some destiny there, or, they never should have been on the island and their being on the island screwed up this amazing time-machine, smoke-monster inhabitated, other dwelling, mysterious island leading to time anomalies that threaten the entire timeline of the world, humanity, and the rest of the universe.
If the still point is Desmond not pressing the button in time, then there are serious problems if that is to be corrected. If it's something else (leaving that rope sticking out of the ground, delaying Charlie's death(which I initially thought was the still point), initiating a sequence of events that leads to "the incident") those still wrap right on back around to Desmond not pushing the button in time. In other words, if you're going to change something and you are ABLE to change something, why not go for broke? But even if it doesn't wrap around to that, there are still problems. For the sake of argument and simplicity, I will stick with the late button press as being the still point.
There have been things said on the show that indicate Desmond may be special and may not have to strictly adhere to the rules of time travel. But he's the one who started all this by NOT pressing the button in time. I think we have isolated the problem here. However, was he always special or did his dose of "electromagnetic energy" when Swan went kabloom create his specialness. For if it did, then 815 needs to crash to make him special. Since it did crash, no problem, right? Wrong. The goal is to make it NOT crash--something which, unfortunately, will not lead to Desmond being special--perhaps leading to him not ever being on the island in the first place, or even born. So who is to press the button in time?
That, in a nutshell, is the problem. And maybe that, or something similar to that, is really what's going on. A very precise and special manipulation of a timeline is needed to fix everything all up.
Keep in mind that not pushing that button in time effects events on and off island going all the way back to ancient times. That means time's ripple effects run straight through to that day 815 crashed on up to what's going on now in the show
To sum up and put it in perspective, one must assume there is something amiss with the timeline, either of the island or of the world or both. And don't tell me things are ok. We have dead people walking up to, and talking with living people on and off island. We have Widmore meeting Locke, except for one of them it was over 50 years ago and for the other it was 2 days ago. We've got an H-Bomb buried near the Swan (I'm assuming) and didn't the Swan kinda blow up from other forces? We have magic numbers that have an effect on and off the island along with some as yet undescribed magic box. We have an apparent immortal strutting around with dark eyes, sometimes sporting a flaming stick, who speaks english very well. We have a compass that has no imaginable existence other than within a tight time loop. And don't get me started on the well. Theory by Tsar Bomba
I get the feeling something is amiss (See the end of this rant for more on that). Something needs fixed. There is some timeline course correction bandied about that may be related to "the incident" and, perhaps, even "the purge"-- what, with our jolly gang now galavanting around Dharma camp in the seventies. There have been strong theories and indicators that the island, or time on the island, may be stuck in a loop, repeating something over and over. Perhaps this loop is created to prevent time going so far as to initiate some man-made grand paradox or anomaly that could destroy the world. You know man when he gets something with power in his hands. He screws it up. Nuclear energy being a case in point. Exotic matter can only be worse.
I've had this idea of a still point in mind for a while now. I recently started rewatching the entire show, starting with season 1. I am now 4 episodes into season 2 and, it was there that I saw something that clicked. Regardless of it turning out to be THE still point as the show develops, it is, in fact, the still point around which everything else revolves. In other words, without this one little event, there would be no show.
If it's not THE event, what follows here may still apply to any event which is focal , yet sets things out of whack. And that, you will see, is the rub.
Early in S2, we find Jack and Locke confronting Desmond about pushing the button, demanding that he explain what is going on. He describes his arrival, the orientation film, and the button pushing every 108 minutes. Jack asks why keep pressing it? "To save the world." is Desmond's matter-of-fact reply. That's when it hit me. To save the world from what? Our losties, that's what.
We've run across this theme (Saving the world) before. Hawking says "God help us all" if the O6 fail. This implies off-island effects. There is also a growning sense of urgency that something needs done or else we're all doomed. Not just our time walkers on-island. There are a lot of people and tons of resources/money involved in the Oceanic losties off island as well as on. Since something is screwed up, they must first be directed to get on 815, not to initiate the problem, but to correct it this time.
Flight 815 crashed because Desmond did not push the button in time. Had he pushed that button in time, 815 would not have crashed, we'd have no losties stuck in Dharma time, no rope sticking out of the ground in ancient times (The ancients must have been the ones who build the well, initially. They either found Charlotte's body, or Charlotte alive, and the rope sticking out of the ground nearby, and dug it up, revealing the exotic matter and thus it all may have begun.), no Le Fleur, no Farady, No Skate/Jate, no message boards, no numbers (no others?)--nothing but a plane flying over an invisible island, successfully and uneventfully on it's way to LA, (maybe a bit off course) while, below, our Desmond pushes away (if even that!).
If you've gotten this far and are buying any of this, you probably have some questions. For, either the losties must be on the island initially and have some destiny there, or, they never should have been on the island and their being on the island screwed up this amazing time-machine, smoke-monster inhabitated, other dwelling, mysterious island leading to time anomalies that threaten the entire timeline of the world, humanity, and the rest of the universe.
If the still point is Desmond not pressing the button in time, then there are serious problems if that is to be corrected. If it's something else (leaving that rope sticking out of the ground, delaying Charlie's death(which I initially thought was the still point), initiating a sequence of events that leads to "the incident") those still wrap right on back around to Desmond not pushing the button in time. In other words, if you're going to change something and you are ABLE to change something, why not go for broke? But even if it doesn't wrap around to that, there are still problems. For the sake of argument and simplicity, I will stick with the late button press as being the still point.
There have been things said on the show that indicate Desmond may be special and may not have to strictly adhere to the rules of time travel. But he's the one who started all this by NOT pressing the button in time. I think we have isolated the problem here. However, was he always special or did his dose of "electromagnetic energy" when Swan went kabloom create his specialness. For if it did, then 815 needs to crash to make him special. Since it did crash, no problem, right? Wrong. The goal is to make it NOT crash--something which, unfortunately, will not lead to Desmond being special--perhaps leading to him not ever being on the island in the first place, or even born. So who is to press the button in time?
That, in a nutshell, is the problem. And maybe that, or something similar to that, is really what's going on. A very precise and special manipulation of a timeline is needed to fix everything all up.
Keep in mind that not pushing that button in time effects events on and off island going all the way back to ancient times. That means time's ripple effects run straight through to that day 815 crashed on up to what's going on now in the show
To sum up and put it in perspective, one must assume there is something amiss with the timeline, either of the island or of the world or both. And don't tell me things are ok. We have dead people walking up to, and talking with living people on and off island. We have Widmore meeting Locke, except for one of them it was over 50 years ago and for the other it was 2 days ago. We've got an H-Bomb buried near the Swan (I'm assuming) and didn't the Swan kinda blow up from other forces? We have magic numbers that have an effect on and off the island along with some as yet undescribed magic box. We have an apparent immortal strutting around with dark eyes, sometimes sporting a flaming stick, who speaks english very well. We have a compass that has no imaginable existence other than within a tight time loop. And don't get me started on the well. Theory by Tsar Bomba
