In "The Package" we see that Mikhail loses his eye as a result of being shot by Jin.
We did not know why Mikhail lost his eye and wore a patch in earlier seasons.
Mikahail's memory of john locke by bamboogrowsontheisland
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The "Sideways" was the original, and our series has been Jacob's proof by NewTruthNeomaxim
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After "The Package" I am left with a strange feeling I cannot yet really prove, but wanted to at least speak to.
I have this sense that the "Alt" is perhaps the real, original, or true world of the series, and that the show we have seen is all the result of a sacrifice they will make soon, or at least in the finale in the alt world.
Ridiculous Plot Device - Or Parallel Worlds Collide? by Cadence1
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Hey all. I doubt that these observations are particularly original, but I thought that I would address them anyway.
First of all, I am of the opinion that what's happening with the flashsideways may be similar to what's happening on Fringe. What I mean by that is that these two separate realities may be on the verge of a collision or something involving an endgame in which only one reality survives. At the very least, these realities are probably going to start leaking into each other.
This may be Obvious by Locke4God
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Short this time,
The way Flocke was insistent on getting all of the remaining candidates together really made me curious. Why would all of the candidates help him leave? Can all of them collectively pierce the barrier? Can they all together magically start the plane?
Then it hit me. He wants them all together so he can kill them at the same time! That's right isn't it? I think. Hummm.
The Flashsideways is what Jacob saw in the Lighthouse mirror by DesmondsHair
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Since Lighthouse I've had my suspicions that the flashsideways timeline is actually what Jacob witnessed in the Lighthouse mirror and from seeing the Losties actions decided wether or not they would be candidates. He then went back and intervened at a point in their lives and "touched" them.
Desmond is the new Jacob and Smokey and the Sea by Graeme Robson
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Sorry if this is unorganised but this just came to me like 5 mins ago.
I think Desmond will become the new Jacob in the end. Desmond appears on Flight 815 in the flash sideways and seemingly disappears. Perhaps he is doing what Jacob did and visiting each of the candidates, influencing their lives.
Widmore never disliked Desmond by Sweetpea2720
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I think earlier in the series they tried to portray Widmore as a man that clearly thought that Desmond wasn't good enouph for his daughter but I think he was just trying to protect his daughter from heartbreak. I think he always knew that Desmond was destined for what I believe are great things.
Fire + Water by James
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This isn't really a theory that covers the entire show, but more a general theory as to a plot element of the show that may happen.
But first, let's establish something.
Jacob wasn't killed by Ben. He was killed by the fire. Fire symbolism has been not only present in Jacob's physical death, but in his metaphorical death later on. They burnt Jacob's cabin after discovering he wasn't there, which I believe was a continuation of the symbol of fire to represent Jacob (and his death).
Widmore pulled a Locke, who pulled a Chistian by la Vigne
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This is based on a lot of speculation and a few accepted theories. I'll try to keep it brief.
There is a game being played behind the scenes of LOST. One of the many end-games is for Jacob to prove MIB wrong. And visa-versa. To do so, both of them have come up with the most detailed and intricate plans. Plans that span many many years.
Divine Retrobution in a Bottle by ProgLOSTicator
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I'm not sure if anyone has tried this yet but it was swimming around in the temple pool that is my brain so I thought I would exercise it into the ether. Not saying I believe this is what is happening but it's just a guess and the parallels are obvious...Here goes.
What about God. Where does he fit into all of this Good vs. Evil business? Well what if he's the other player in the game.
Once again, thoughts on Number 23 by TheFlow
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A short theory this time.
When I was looking at the airdates of Lost, I realized, that the first part of the Pilot was first aired on Sep 22nd (2004). And the Final episode of S6 will be aired on Mai 23rd (2010).
Could it be, that there is more behind that?
Some speculation: with the pilot of "Lost", universe #22 ended, #23 began (at least for "23 - Shepard", a.k.a. Jack). When S6 ends, universe #23 (WHH) will end and #24 will takes its place.
Remember, that Jack was sitting in row 23 on the plane in S1 (in the WHH) but in row 24 in FSW in S6.
Is this maybe his counter for some kind of reincarnation?
Sun has been "claimed' by Andrew Warks
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Ill keep it short and simple. What happened to Sun is the same thing that happened to Sayid and Claire. Think about it. Why would Locke go through all the trouble of chasing her and just leave her there without doing what he came to do when he approached Sun by the garden. When she got knocked out by the tree he killed her than brought her back to life the same way Sayid was brought back, only not the same. After she was awoken by Ben, she didn't seem the same back at the beach. She behaved very angrily which is very unlike Sun. I also think Sun not being able to speak English may have something to do with the new Sun. I'm not sure Locke's intention was to kill her but he seemed to have no choice as bringing back an unwilling Sun would only ruin his plans.
Locke the patsy by ig69
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This episode has finally solved the debate regarding whether Locke has been receiving 'divine guidance from the island' or simply been a puppet. I'm sure that at the end of the season we'll come to realize that the smoke monster/MIB would have needed to occupy someone's body in order for this end game to play out. I'm sure we'll be treated to an ending that resolves six seasons of story lines with a pleasurable/satisfying ending, and in that respect, Locke will be the only character that smokey could inhabit that could be manipulated and defeated in order to acheive Jacob's ultimate purpose. Locke has been a puppet and manipulated according to Jacob's design so that he could ultimately be destroyed 'easily' in the end.
"Why don't you start at the beginning?" - Explanation of (almost) everything by Louis
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As Benjamin Linus once said to Locke, "I wish it was as simple as taking out a dusty old book and reading from it, but I'm afraid it's not that simple."
To which Locke says, "Why don't you just start at the beginning?"
So, I will.
Your Package is Quite Explosive by Junderwood
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You’ll have to forgive me if I don’t make the most sense here. Charles Widmore’s turn of phrase sparked something in my mind and I began researching in a fury. The more I researched, the more I found out – about a science I never studied – and the more things began to fit…Thus the more excited and incoherent I became. I now know how Daniel Faraday must feel…
Anyway, after watching all of “The Package,” (please don’t continue reading if you have not watched the entire episode) we now know that the “package” is not a “what” it’s a “who.” And we know the “who” is Desmond Hume.
Jacob's Guide to becoming Jacob by la Vigne
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This is base on 100% speculation.
Do you think you have what it takes to become the new Jacob? Follow these 6 easy steps and you'll be on your way in no time.
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Did the Hatch tell us everything we need to know about the island? by MJE
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The last season of Lost has proven (at least to me) that Team Darlton provided us major clues to the mysteries of the island from the very beginning. After last week’s revelation that the island operates much like a “cork,” I couldn’t help but make parallels to Season Two and the story of the Hatch. The Hatch, after all, operated much like Jacob’s “cork” analogy, keeping a powerful energy contained and thus preventing the complete annihilation of the island. The island (so we’ve been told) keeps a powerful, evil energy contained, thus preventing the complete annihilation of the world. Both the Hatch and the Island are not meant to be discovered, watched over by two men at odds with each other over the meaning behind their responsibilities, with at least one member wanting to escape but needing to find a replacement. I’m sure others could draw many more parallels.
The Greatest Clue That Darlton Ever Gave… by Flash Sayid Ways
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W’sup people, first-time theorist, so I’ll start with the obligatory apology in case a similar theory has been posted. In fact, it’s probably more of an observation than a theory, but I thought I’d put it out there. I’ll try to stick to the facts and keep it short(ish) lol! And I’ll be calling MiB posing as fake Locke the “Locke-alike” if u all don’t mind, coz I like it! Anyways…
Not so black and white by Sal
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This theory is based on the belief that the island is special, I believe that what Locke saw in series 1 was real, that he looked into the eye of the island and what he saw.......was beautiful. The island therefore needs to be protected: Protected so that the ‘evil’ cannot get out. If we were to believe Jacob, then we might believe that MIB is evil and Jacob good, I do not think that everything is as black and white as that..........
Desmond = White Stone, Charlie = Black Stone by Dane
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Alright, this piggybacks on a theory I read earlier today about how Desmond somehow traveling back again and choosing Penny the first time around is the thing that sets the new timeline into motion. Here it is, read it: http://bit.ly/clKiCr The thing that got me thinking was, what is different about this time around to make that happen?! There's undoubtedly a time loop going on on the island from 2007 to 1977 and back around again. And as Jacob said, it only ends once; everything before that is just progress.
The Island is like a magic carpet ride from world to world... by Lockescrazymama
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I came up with this idea a while back when I read somewhere that the original premise of this show was that
The Island is the character....I believe Jacob and Esau are his Light and Dark personalities...as Dogen mentioned and
The Loophole has always been for Esau to try and overpower Jacob and escape to destroy the entire world.
All While Jacob has been trying to keep him contained while always bringing different people to the island in the hopes
of finding a replacement before he is destroyed.
Jacob and Esau are playing a cat and mouse game in each world.
I ain't got no body... by ProgLOSTicator
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I read alot but don't think I read this anywhere exactly, but if it's been explained before, blah blah blah, you know the drill.
Here's how things might have happened.
Mario and Groundhog's day = answers to LOST by kane
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Mario and Groundhog's day = answers to LOST
2 Part Theory, read to the end.
Part 1 - Desmond turned the failsafe key - and he flashed to the ALT, or 'Alternate reality"
Part 2- Mario and Bill Murry..."It only ends once, the rest is just progress"
Jacob/MIB part of a "game" started a long time ago by MyEnglishisAwesome
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Hi, first time poster, apologies if this has already been expounded upon.
In "Ab Aeterno," MIB asks Richard to kill Jacob with the special dagger, instructing him that he must kill Jacob immediately without letting him speak first. If you remember, these were the same exact instructions Dogan gave to Sayid.
Sentient Idea Monsters and Faraday Cages 101! by Robert Lee
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I’d like to present a seemingly random chain of events and show how we can relate “The first murder” to the chemical-electric thought processes of the human brain and Daniel Faraday’s namesake:
Ilana's Role by Stupot
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We've seen many times now that Jacob sent Ilana to the Island to 'protect' the candidates, but what does this mean? And why 'her'?
I think she has a gift, a gift protect people, not in a physical sense, but in mental sense, from The Dark Man. MIB has a way of manipulating people, and she has the ability to stop people from flling for his words, which is why those people around her (Sun, Hurley, Jack) are safe, as long as they are with Illana. Whereas Claire, Sayid (and Kate, soon too, if she's not careful) have succumbed to the Dark man's will.
Widmore and the locked room on the sub by LampostElectrician
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That locked room on the sub has been bothering me. What could possibly be in it that requires it to be locked? Then it dawned on me.
Jacob gave instructions to Hurley to turn the dial to 108 on the lighthouse. Why? Because he needs to help someone find the island.
Wallace.
What if Widmore figured it out and got to Wallace first? Who is Wallace? Is Wallace the person who can replace Jacob? No. All the final candidates are present and accounted for. So who is Wallace?
MiB did to Locke what Jacob did to him by Dave
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So I think I came up with an interesting theory this week. I don't think I've seen anyone hit on it yet. I'm not really sure where this exactly goes, but I think there's something to it.
good vs evil = smoke and mirrors by mike wasowski
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I am new to this. I have read other theories for a while and have never posted, until now. That being said, I can not believe that nobody else has posted anything like this, and I apologize that I overlooked it if they did.
My theory: Jacob and MIB are neither good nor evil. They are two somewhat supernatural beings playing a game that has lasted for a very long time, and they are being supervised or kept in check by other supernatural beings, the creator of the Rules.
LOST is all about LOVE by GavinAlpert
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The constant broke it open. That’s what these two worlds are. Desmond was flashing between two different worlds. One where Penny didn’t exist, and one where she did. He needed his constant, his love, to zap him back into reality. He stuck into the island world because that’s where his constant was alive. I believe the losties all need their constants. Lost is all about love. Everyone has a significant other. Jack, Kate. Sawyer, Juliet. Hurley, Libby. Claire, Charlie. Locke, Hellen. Sayid, Nadya. Jin, Sun. All the woman are getting killed off in the island world. Libby, Juliet, Nadya, and I have a feeling Sun may be next. Something tells me Kate will have to sacrifice herself in the island world in order to serve as Jack’s constant in the other world. When the people who lost significant others in the island world, run into those counterparts in the “alt” world, that will trigger som! e kind of memory a la the constant and our characters will be sucked into that world forever killing their island personality. You know we’re getting a Desmond episode sooner or later and I have a feeling it will go into more detail about this constant stuff and he will be a guide to help the other losties figure that out. But we will find out that Desmond doesn’t have Penny in this alt world. He’s just flashing there to guide the Losties. Desmond already found his constant in the Island world and that’s his normal world.
I think this why it’s so significant that the old actors have been coming back, and that may be why the writers led Sawyer into Juliet’s arms during the last season. This show, in a four letter word, is all about LOVE.
One more on MIB and Christian by Daniel
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I've been reading a lot of theories about Christian, and there is something that is bothering me.
When there was the reveal of MIB back in The Incident, most people tought that he was the smoke monster (proven correct) and all the "ghosts" on island. this of course included Christian Shepard.
Aarons and pregnancy on the Island by Just_Me
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Just a few thoughts rolling around my head. Suppose that only someone born on the Island can replace smoke/locke, which would in fact "kill" him. Here's my reasoning (which may be a little muddled).
In order to have Good, you have to have Evil. You have to have Light in order to have Dark. Yin & Yang.
Aaron was the first child born on the Island in a long time (don't recall if it was ever established how long), but Claire was due anytime when they crashed, so had made it past the 2nd tri-mester.
During the "Oceanic 6" years, Kate had a dream that Claire told her "Don't you dare bring him back to the Island". That was during Claires feral years, being influenced by smoke/locke.
In the episode Recon smoke/locke tells Kate his story about his crazy mom, just to tell her that now "Aaron has a crazy mother".
Jacob realizes that he will need a replacement at some point. Smoke/Locke doesn't want a replacement, he just wants to leave his prison. He may have done something to cause the pregnancies to end in death to keep this from happening.
Havn't really delved into this theory very far, but perhaps some of you with a few more working grey matter cells can expound on it.
Rules for being killed by jazze981
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1) Ben to Widmore. "You broke the rules"
- referring to the killing of Alex
Alex was not supposed to be killed. It should not have been allowed according to the rules. Ben is truly surprised and shocked when Alex is killed and he truly appeared to believe that she could not be killed, hence his bluff to Keamy. It is likely that Ben knew Alex was a candidate and therefore should not be able to be killed. But was the breaking of the rules by Widmore the killing of Alex (some kind of loophole to kill candidates) or was it a lie to the Others that Alex was a candidate when in fact she never was (and was quite killable)?
A Tale of Two Christians from Two Timelines, On One Island as the Nexus Between by JohnConstant69
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How come we've seen Christian decked out in full suit and tie, his burial clothes, and then also Christian in more casual wear?
How come we've seen Christian barefoot, but then also wearing Jack's shoes?
How come Christian already seemed to be deep in the jungle, alive, walking around, directing Vincent to help Jack, only a few seconds or minutes after the crash?
Is Christian continually changing his wardrobe and choosing to go barefoot at times?
I submit it because there's 2 Christian Shephards on the island.
One from the traditional 815 timeline, one from the ALT universe timeline.
Dying to Live by Layla
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Those are my basic thoughts for the finale:
1.Desmond will be shifting between the two time lines till he realizes what's happening with him as he interacts with more losties in the ALT time line.
2.This realization is the trigger to converge the two time lines as they found their common factor (Desmond).
3.As we have seen before whenever someone dies on the island his subconscious unites with his body in the ALT time line.( In other words ," REINCARNATION "we have noticed how many times the producers used the reincarnation theme in many episodes).
4.So in order for the losties to live the life they chose to live THEY HAVE TO DIE ON THE ISLAND. In fact, I think dying is their salvation. Therefore when the losties die on the island the two time lines will converge and become one .Otherwise, if they survive and left the island in a plane or a submarine, the island will end up bringing them back somehow.(Remember Ben telling Frank "that the island got him eventually") .
All of this has happened before (and all of it will happen again) by HumeandHoltz
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Some of this may have been posted before and if so, I apologize. It's worth noting that this is the first theory I've posted, so if anything I say is unclear please feel free to comment and I'll try to answer as best I can.
I've been trying to use clues and information we've already gathered from previous episodes in order to determine what the flash sideways could be (and what they mean for the end game of the show). Something I keep coming back to is the episode after the hatch has exploded when Desmond has seemingly gone back in time and has a chance to do things differently. We know (or can assume) that the electromagnetic energy sent him back to the time in his life when he made a choice (not to propose to Penny) that sent him on a journey to the island. Some important parallels with the flash sideways are that he initially doesn't remember the island, but has a sense of deja vu and his meeting with Charlie is what triggers his memory of the island to come back.
jacob's interventions by dieseljimmy
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hope this is not a repeat theory
I think jacobs plans to implant a new candidate have slowly deteriorated from his original righteous position. He is running out of candidates and over the period of a long time he is manipulating situations more and more. Likely as a result of seeing the candidate pool drain and doing what is needed to "beat" the MIB. I believe the end of the show will be come down to a few remaining candidates. At this point jacob will have a moment of clarity and realize he is manipulating the situation as much as the MIB. He will like many of the other characters in the show have a moment of redemption. His moment of redemption will be to go back in time and undo all his interventions. The reversal of the interventions will explain what is going on in the flashsideways. The flashsideways are what would have happened without jacobs interventions to the characters or the characters web of related/intertwined support cast.
Connecting Jacob's Method of Leaving the Island, The Lighthouse, Christian & The Cabin by Locke4God
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This is a spin of an earlier theory of mine from today entitled "If the Island was the Prison, What's with the Cabin?" Check the comments out there if you need a primer, but it's not necessary.
Let's just start with 3 ideas and the rest will straight forward.
The Source of the Whispers is... by Boo
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I had this creepy thought that involves the flash sideways timeline that I just had to share.
Assuming that the flash sideways timeline is actually happening concurrent with the island timeline and that the two resolve at some point, possibly by merging, what happens to the people and things that once existed in the alternate timeline? Do they simply cease to exist or are they somehow merged into the "real" island timeline? Perhaps that's part of one of LOST's great mysteries?
What if those whispers that we hear at critical points during the series that were once associated with the Others are actually the voices of the orphaned timeline untethered from reality stuck in limbo on the island? This also assumes that the island has some connection to the realm of the dead or ghost world.
This would mean that Jack's son that could have been is one of those voices. Creepy, no?
The Manipulation of the Others: Clearing Up Inconsistencies by locke_your_door
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So here we were, presented with the Others for the first three seasons as a group of evil, murderous villains. They kidnapped babies at will; they murdered each other and the survivors of 815 without regard; they set up cages and forced people into hard labor; they had brainwashing rooms; they would even force potential leadership to murder family members in the name of their organization. At the same time they worshipped Jacob, now revealed to be the Island's Dalai Lama, a man of peace who ostensibly embraces the fundamental, if imperfect goodness of humanity. How did this organization that was started with the noble aims of Jacob after the destruction of the Black Rock become so intertwined with ordinary, commmonplace villainy?
Explanation of the Loophole after Ab Aeterno by Lost Dogma
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Readin all the discussions about "Ab Aeterno" I wanted to provide a theory about why the instructions are so important and need to be followed when trying to assassinate MIB or Jacob. I believe the loophole has to do with the assassin truly believing that either MIB/Jacob should be killed. He must be totally committed to the murder, without doubt. The dagger is irrelevant.
Ab Aeterno, A Theory by darkshoe
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On a digital clock the time is either 1:20 or 1:21. On an analog watch the hands are always moving, and it's always somewhere in between. Jacob is a digital demi-god. With Jacob it's either black or white, good or evil, alive or dead. When Ricardo thinks he's dead, Jacob dunks him and forces him to choose.
Storms by Misha
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A simple theory: Smokey/MIB has the ability to affect the weather around the island, or at least to conjure up a storm.
After Jacob & MIB chat on the sunny beach in Season 5, and the Black Rock is seen coming toward the island, as MIB walks away, he causes the storm that we then see in Ab Aeterno, from the perspective of those on the Black Rock. MIB's intent has nothing to do with the Black Rock - rather, he wants to cause the collapse of the statue on top of Jacob and sends a tidal wave to destroy it.
Dogen's Fake Knife by Engberg
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So this is a theory concerning the dagger that killed Jacob, and the dagger that didn't kill MIB.
As we see in The Incident Part 2, there is a dagger that can kill Jacob. Well, we don't really know that it's the dagger, but for the sake of this theory, I'm going to assume it is. Now, we later see a special dagger with Dogen (the same looks as MIB's dagger?), and supposedly it can kill MIB. However, I believe that Dogen thinks this is the dagger that MIB had, that killed Jacob. I believe this dagger can kill both Jacob and MIB.
Garden & Guardian by Christian's BabyMama
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My theory pulls from the many theories that have the Island as the Garden of Eden.
First, I believe our main clue to this coming from the Losties naming the skeletons found in the cave "Adam & Eve'. According to the Coptic Book of Adam and Eve (at 2:1-15), and the Syriac Cave of Treasures, Abel's body, after many days of mourning, was placed in the Cave of Treasures, before which Adam and Eve, and descendants, offered their prayers. Hmmmm.... No doubt that other religions and traditions are incorporated, but this may truly BE Adam & Eve.
Lost could also be titled "Hope" by Bullbull10
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Hope, without"Hope" you have nothing. Everyone on this island has "Hope" From the very first episode, when the plane crashes, Jack wakes up in the Jungle and he's Hoping that he's not injured, that night everyone is around the campfires "Hoping " that someone is coming for them. Later that night they hear rumblings in the trees and everyone is "hoping" whatever it is doesn't come out and attack them. Jacob and the MIB have been "Hoping" for years that one of them is right. MIB is hoping that he has finally found the loophole to set him free and he can go "Home". Jacob is "Hoping " that he has found his replacement among the six candidates. Present day Ilana is "Hoping " she can protect the six. Sawyer is "Hoping " his con is going to work and he can get off this rock. Jacob was "Hoping " that he was wrong about Ben before Ben killed him. Miles is"Hoping " that he can get off the island with the bag of diamonds th! at he dug up. Sun and Jin are both "Hoping" that they find each other before it's too late. Even Claire had "Hope" even though FLocke told her that Aaron had been taken away from her, she had "Hope" that one day she would be with him. Even Richard when he was down in the belly of the Black Rock, he was given "Hope" in the form of his wife "Isabella" When the MIB came to him and offered to set him free it came with the condition that he kill the devil, but he gave him "hope" that if he did this deed he would be wife his wife again. In closing I like to say that I"m "Hoping " along with everyone else that the Lost has a great ending, and it doesn't end like "St Elsewhere"
If the Island was the Prison, What's With the Cabin? by Locke4God
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Alright so in 1860 (or whatever year) the Black Rock crashes and at that point Jacob appears very content to let MIB just do whatever he wants to the people Jacob brings.
My basic question I'm asking here is that if MIB is trapped on the Island, then why trap him in a Cabin as well?
Good vs. Evil connection to ALT by Bone
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I cannot help but to see a connection between what is going on with the characters on the island and the characters in ALT. Those that are currently hanging with MIB seem to be leaning that way in ALT. Sawyer, Kate, and Sayid are current with MIB and are currently leaning toward the evil side in ALT. Kate is running from the law, Sawyer is attempting to find and murder the con man, and Sayid has returned to his murdering ways. The severity of their evil also seems to be connected. Sayid is a mess on the island and is a murderer in ALT. Kate and Sawyer are just hanging with with MIB, pondering their escape, and their characters in the ALT still have time to turn good.
Reason for Smokie's Scans? by Big Hank
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This thought just popped into my head, and being that I should be working right now, I'll try and keep it short and to the point.
Since the Losties have had there first encounters with the smoke monster, it has been seen scanning people of their thoughts and past. I've heard many theories that it is seeing if they are 'good' people, or if they are worthy of living, but I offer a different suggestion.
Thoughts on Smokey by Marcus
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Hi folks, this is just some thoughts I had on the Smoke Monster.
I think Smokey can split into multiple copies of Locke. There was some evidence for this in the substitute. In the episode, we first see Smokey travel a long distance to the Barracks in an effort to recruit Sawyer, note the distance between Sawyer and Richard here. Ok, when he arrives at the barracks and is staring at Sawyer through the window, note what track is playing on the record player. We then flash to the Richard scene, where he first tries to recruit Richard, but fails. When we arrive back at the Sawyer scene, again note the track on the record player. It’s almost a continuation on from that same song earlier. I think this was deliberate and a major clue. What happened was, the Sawyer scene and Richard scene both happened at the same time, and to achieve this, Smokey had to have split into two Locke’s.
The Final Lesson by The Scribe
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The End of Lost, I believe, will be some sort of morality tale - and I reckon that we know enough now to guess what it will be...
That people can, by their own free will, be good. That is what I believe the ALT reality will show us - by showing us what the Losties will do without Jacob and MIB's influence. We don't need the help of demi-gods to get there...
The Egyptian Parallels Could Be The Answer... by Taylor
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The parallels between lost and ancient egypt are definitely a huge presence in the show and have been hinted that they hold a clue for the show. After the great episode that was AA ("Ab Aeterno"), It seems as though that reins true. First let's take a look at some egyptian gods and their meaning and history:
Apep: Evil Demon, The deification of darkness and chaos, "enemy" of Ra and opponent of light and order. Apep was known for his "battles" with Ra and was considered the personification of evil. Sound Familiar?
Looking back with fresh eyes make you question alot more..... by turnip head
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The wool was pulled over our eyes from the start and the MIB was scheming all along!
First time i have ever posted a theory on Lost and i am waiting to be shot down. But after seeing Richard episode and re watching the first season lot of things seem to jump out at me. I hope that my musings will stimulate some discussion even to say it is c**p. But my main thing is given MIB previous form to kill everyone in sight but one person upon landing on the island as seen in Richards back story, so why when our losties arrive on the island does he seem to hold back and not go rampaging through the whole camp. Not all the losties are candidates. Normally MIB gets rid of these so what has change?
Is Jacob really such a "good guy"? by kcol
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Is Jacob all he is made out to be?
Im not so sure,......
For Jacob bringing humans to the island is no less than some sort of ' experiment ' to prove MIB wrong,....but MIb doesn't need to prove anything... its a known fact that we as humans are 'corrupt' just on different levels, no human is perfect,...MIB knows no is not perfect and says that to Kate,"no one is perfect..."
Jacob Could Have Already Picked Sawyer by TheNumbersAren'tBad
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Please bear with me here as I am still trying to convince myself of this 100%. It has been theorized that Jacob has already chosen his successor out of the remaining Candidates. Iilana (I really don't like her personally) said there were 6 candidates (could we get some originality here? Remember the Oceanic 6?) and my guess she means Jack, Sun, Jin, Sawyer, Sayid and Hurley.
Initially, you're going to poke holes in my theory because Sawyer has already joined Flocke, but as we've seen, you can switch sides (see Richard Alpert).
Momma's Boy by Daman H.
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This theory is a sort of explanation of the nature of the relationship between the Man in Black and his mother and the forms taken on by the major entities of the Island.
In "Recon," the Man in Black (in Locke's form) reveals to Kate that he had a "crazy mother" who was "a very disturbed woman." He follows this by telling Kate that now "Aaron has a crazy mother too." This conversation leads me to believe that the Man in Black's mother is still playing a pivotal role in his life and in the progression of events on the Island.
Jacob must reform MIB/MIB waiting for something by Freddie
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This theory is mostly focused on Jacob/MIB's relationship, what that might mean in relation to the candidates and who Jacob brings to the island, and the ALT/endgame of the show. I have perhaps left out some pieces that I'm taking for granted here or that I've thought through elsewhere, so feel free to add and comment and we can work through some stuff. I have thought pretty extensively about the show and I'm currently rewatching the series (up to 4x03) during the current season. I'm also of the mindset that unless the ALT ends up being something profoundly interesting, that they should have just told the 2007/2008 on-island story with flashbacks/flashforwards, since I'm loving all the island mystery reveals and focus on Jacob/MIB but not seeing right now how they connect up to the ALT in any meaningful way yet.
Jacob and the MIB are Horus and Set by John
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If this has already been posted, I apologize, I have not seen it. This is also my first post, so I will try not to ramble too much. :)
I think there is a very good chance that Jacob and the MIB represent Set and Horus from Egyptian mythology. It might be another god similar to Horus, But I am pretty sure one of them is supposed to be Set.
What Happened Happened When? by The Goatman
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I've been thinking about the death of DI on the Island. It appears to me that we have been lead to believe a cover story. I think the Smoke Monster killed the DI and deposited their bodies in the ravine. We have already seen Smokie's handiwork. It always kills and does not bother with burying. This was so in the Temple and on Hydra Island. The death of DI shows the same method, opportunity and motive. Why have we been mislead on this event? Ben wanted to hide the true nature of what caused their demise. It's clear to me now that MIB appeared to Ben as Richard and told him to lay low for the right time. The vagabond appearance of Richard truly suggests the appearance of Richard on the Black Rock and not after his employment by Jacob. Don't forget that Richard has been scanned by Smokie and could easily at that time have been portraying Richard to Ben to con him.
The Real John Locke Caused the Tidal Wave / Black Rock Shipwreck by IanG
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During the time shifts, the Losties were brought to a time period pre-statue destruction. However, I believe this was actually the same day that the Black Rock arrived at the shoreline. When Locke moved the Island with the intent to stop the flashes, this had a side effect of moving the Island to a location where a huge storm was brewing, or possibly the act of moving the Island itself caused the storm. Regardless, since the Black Rock was within the radius of the Island (like the Zodiac), it got pulled into the storm as well, and we all know what happened after that.
Stop Being Myopic (Answers for the Compulsively Dissapointed) by Locke4God
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WOW, some of these questions I'm seeing posted are absolutely bizarre, esspecially when they're being formatted to make the point that the show is coming up short. Before I answer some of the more trivial issues that are driving some of you up the wall, I'll be blunt. This season is being well crafted. If you don't like it because you sat in your basement for 9 months eating mac & cheese, and composing your own ending for the show which isn't coming to pass, then please go review my Trilogy Syndrome post, because you're suffering from a terminal case of it.
Jacob literally took the MIB's body giving new meaning to the loophole by Alan sAWCHUK
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I think that one possibility is that the entity Jacob literally took the MIB's body when the MIB came to the island. There may be very specific rules that the MIB needs to follow in order to get his body back or in order to obtain a new body. He may need to win the "game" with Jacob before he can have his original body back trapping him on the island. He can't directly kill Jacob because killing that body would prevent him from possibly getting it back for himself. The loophole may be that the MIB can obtain a new body if he copies the body of a person who dies off island and is brought back to the island. Once that happens, he no longer needs his previous body now possessed by Jacob and can then devote his efforts and powers to killing Jacob's human form, which is able to keep the MIB on the island while alive and in a human body. Of course there may be rules as to how he can kill Jacob's human form. He may stil! l need another intermediary such as Ben to help him according to the rules of the game.
In this theory the need to find a loophole really means that the MIB can't kill Jacob since he would be destoying his own body unless he finds an unusual way to obtain another body, which needs to follow the rules of the game. In this instance neither Jacob or the MIB are good or bad, although there is a wager involved about the morality, destiny or fate of other people who are brought to the island.
The Black Rock Came before the Ship in the Incident by Echo1776
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Ok, I know a lot of people are curious about the arrival of the Black Rock due to the fact that it appeared on the Island during a storm and not during a sunny day as depicted during the little chat between Jacob and MIB at the beginning of "The Incident." As it is highly unlikely that the Lost Producers would make such a critical (and obvious) continuity error so late in the game, we can only conclude that the ship was NOT the Black Rock. So the question remains: Did the ship come before or after Alpert's arrival?
We are the Wine by Gwmort
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I watched the scene with Jacob and Richard on the beach talking about the cork concept. We are led to believe the island is a barrier between hell and earth, but that is never said. All that Jacob said is the island keeps the evil from spreading. He never says "into the world" or something similar.
No Replacements? by Lee Coxon (UK)
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Hi, I've been reading these theories since the beginning and I love them but I have never wrote one myself because I find it hard to put down in words what I think, so basically I'm gonna keep it short :)
I think their may very well be no replacement, Jacob & MIB are both very much manipulaters as we all know. Do we really think Jacob needs to be replaced because he died? He couldnt/wouldnt interveen in the past (as he said to Richard - freewill, helping themselves) all he has ever done has got someone else to "speak" for him ala. Ben/Richard/Hurley. Even now when he's dead he's still pulling the strings, does he really need a replacement or was this the long con against MIB?
The Island is Pandora's Box and Kate is MIB's loophole by Maori8
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After watching the Richard-centric episode, I came up with this theory of how the show is going to unfold.
First, I think the Island is the only place on Earth where God, the Devil, and humans are allowed to co-exist. We have three sides
Jacob, Paradise, God etc.... the good side
MIB, Hell, Devil, etc... the bad side
and finally the human beings.
Statue of Tawaret ... Are you sure? by Meglatron
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I have been wondering for some time about the statue and how the Lost internet sites seem to take it for granted that it is Tawaret the goddess of birth and fertility. Good place to worsip that goddess for her greatness in an a place were birth and fertiliy seem to be a lttle screwed up (you could also argue that is why it is there to help this problem but temlpes seem to be built on specific sites where the god is "present" and so they can appease them directly.
One small problem of this is that Jaco would be living ni a girls house and I cant imagine the American Boris Becker doing that!
The Candadites and the End of the World by Kevicho
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First let me say that after Ab Aeterno, IMO its clear MIB is EVIL as F***. Jacob is good and he made this abundantly clear with his discussion with Richard. He just wants people to be good on their own. It is only later after meeting with Richard that he decides to nudge and influence people.
I think the Dharma Initiative had the equation right (the numbers) yet their meaning of them was wrong. They are not a date/time that the world will end. The numbers are a signal for when the world will end.
MIB is a Djinni by BdC
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I believe MIB is a Djinni from middle eastern folklore. I believe he used to be a Man ("I used to be a Man" he said) and Jacob is or used to be a Djinni. For some reason Jacob was forced to grant a wish or a gift to MIB (when MIB was a Man). The wish ended up making MIB a Djinni and possible making Jacob a Man (MIB mentions being tricked out of his humanity by Jacob). Somehow in the process he traps MIB on the island, a sort of parallel universe with a very narrow interface (a single direction of exit, with a time-shift) to the real world; the bottle holding the Djinni (Jacob even shows this). MIB breaks the bottle because he's planning to escape.
What happened to all of the prior candidates by bobby
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I am a little confused by the whole candidate thing. If Jacob has brought all of these different candidates to the island before the Losties arrived and Alpert was his go between, then how could Richard be so clueless as to what needs to be done to carry out Jacobs plan? Also, why were the Others so hostile towards the survivors when they arrived on the island if Jacob brought them there and its Richard's job to observe and influence them?
For Every Action There Is An Equal And Opposite Reaction (Jacob and MIB will both have a replacement by Salvador Martinez Jr.
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The jury is still out, at least for me, of whom is the devil (Jacob or MIB)? But nonetheless a strong philosophical question one must ask themselves is "can good exist without evil?" This falls along the same lines as "can white exist without black?" or "can a god exist without a devil?" That being said ask yourself can a Jacob replacement exist without a MIB replacement? seems to me that both beings/life forces are crucial to the existence of the island. That might seem to explain why Jacob doesn't want MIB to leave the island. I know the whole MIB is evil theory is close to being fact, but I still believe there is more than meets the eye. I guess we will find out in the closing episodes the truth.
There's no such thing as magic island goop by Wallet
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Did anyone else get a strange sense of deja vu when chained up Richard watched his wife Isabella get carried off by the smoke monster?
I am referring to tied up Boone watching Shannon get carried off and killed by Smokey. "What did it show you?" After the fact, we (and Boone) chalked it up to the "magic goop" that Locke put in Boone's head wound. But I say there is no magic island goop.
Nature/Nurture by Brian
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First off, I have no idea how the "main" timeline and the "alt" timeline come together if they do at all. But I do believe the alt timeline, regardless of how it fits in, shows something important and basic.
If we assume the split of the two timelines occurred after every main character was born (not a given but a fair assumption given the state of the island shown underwater), we can assume the birth of each character, regardless of timeline, was the same. That is, the "nature" aspect of each timeline (for our characters) is the same.
Pass The Wine! by Joy In Repetition
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The image of MIB smashing the wine bottle has got me thinking. I wonder if MIB was once in the position of Ricardus and heard that same analogy from Jacob about the cork, hell, and wine?
I'm sure there are much better methods that the MIB uses to relieve stress other than smashing a wine bottle. Who doesn't like wine? It seemed much more personal in the way Lost presented that shot.
The Swan Hatch kept the cork in by friendly's fake beard
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Hello there. This is my first theory I've posted, despite having been a reader of other people's for yonks.
Jacob's recent revelation that the island is "a bit like the cork in a bottle of wine" , keeping in all the evil and whatnot, stopping it spilling out into the outside world, made me think back to series 2.
In particular, Kelvin asking Desmond whether he was brave enough to pull his finger out of the dam and blow up the whole hatch.
The two analogies struck me as quite similar.
Black Rock answers by billyjoe3362
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Third post in three days, things just keep becoming a little clearer in my head.
After Ab Aeterno, people have been screaming from rooftops that there was a huge production error on the account of the arrival of the Black rock. And rightly so, after all first time we see it it is in the morning on a clear day, the next time we see it is it in the middle of the night and it is storming.
Jacob is "evil" and the Man In Black is "good" by AdiHugeLostFan
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I'm a long time viewer and reader of theories on this site but this is my first theory post. Although it does touch on theories expressed in the past, I think I have new evidence to back it up.
is eloise hawkings on MIB's side and other little things by ll78
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OK So now we know that when "Locke" instructed Richard to go into the jungle, heal his gun shot wound and tell him that in order to save the island he will have to die, it was not real locke but MIB. This is nicely clarified on lostpedia's Locke or Richard Alpert pages.
So, MIB orchestrated the losties return and he wanted Locke to die so he could take his body. But, how did he know Locke's dead body would be sent back to the island? It had to be or he couldn't take Lockes form. Eloise was the one who told Jack to bring Locke's body back to the Island - she said he would be a proxy - so did she do that for MIB?
MIB is not a criminal by lexieultra
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Here are some simple ideas that have finally come together.
The MIB is not a prisoner in the criminal sense. Jacob and the MIB were once allies who discovered the Island and understood it's power and potential for corruption. They decided to protect the Island together -- protect it from the outside world. The superhuman power they gained on the Island is what they use to do their job. But after centuries of duty they have become bored. Jacob is looking for a successor, and the MIB doesn't care anymore and just wants to leave.
MiB will try to escape, while avoiding 'the cork' by Michael Groeneweg
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This is the first time I share one of my theories here. I hope it will contribute in some way.
Last night at the end of the episode something grabbed my attention. We saw how MiB smashed the bottle, letting the wine pour out of it.
Jacob is the dark one by Lapidus4primeminister
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I have thought before that Jacob is not the light/white one - as we know it to be. We have seen many references to light and dark and we have been constantly guessing who is right and who is wrong good vs evil.
In my previous posts I stated that there is a creator, destroyer and protector. See link http://theoriesonlost.blogspot.com/2010/03/how-alt-and-main-timeline-are-connected.html
I think that the light vs dark battle between Jacob and MIB is a red herring, the real battle has yet to be shown.
Why the Island timeline is better by sweetpea2720
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I have heard people debate that the alternate time line seems better than the Island time line. I can understand that logic, in the alternate time line they are not being chased by polar bears, black smoke monsters, other's, the freighter folk, they aren't being shot at and shot, no flaming arrows, their not dead! The list goes on and on.
MIB is NOT the smoke monster byGreg
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I have a new theory. I probably stole a few ideas from other people, but those people know who they are and should be happy that other people think they are on to something.
MIB is not the smoke monster. He may be connected to the smoke monster, or more likely always in CLOSE PROXIMITY to the smoke monster, but he is not the smoke monster. The writers have never let us see the MIB/Flocke transform into the black smoke. N-E-V-E-R.
The Gates of Hell by Jane S
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Tartarus is a place said to be as far beneath Hell (Hades) as Heaven is high above earth, (per Iliad c. 700 Zeus). It is said that if a bronze anvil falls from Heaven, it will take 9 days to reach Earth. From Earth, it would then take an additional 9 days to fall to Tartarus, making it approximately 2,964,853,124 kilometers deep (about the distance from the Sun to Uranus per Wikipedia). This distance is important to LOST it’s the distance 2x9 then a combination of the LOST numbers 48 15 16 23 42. This is just the beginning. This may explain why the Ankh is always facing upside down, as if it is falling from Heaven. The realm of Hades is a place of the dead, Tartarus has it’s own inhabitants. This place was used to confine dangerous to the gods of Olympus, then it became a place where punishment fits the crimes. This brings up the story of Sisyphus who was forced to roll a large bolder up a mountainside, over ! and over again.
A theory on accents by Handsome Hanso Ben
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Hey folks first time poster,
So! I've been watching the show from the beginning like I'm sure most of you have. One thing I have noticed is that for the most part accent and language use in this show seem to be accurate. At least, accurate enough to pass by an average american viewers (like me) ears and seem authentic.
Ab Aeterno “A Very Long Time ago, or the Beginning of Time “(Lost episode 6.09) Recap and Analysis by theynameditright
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Ab Aeterno “A Very Long Time ago, or the Beginning of Time “(Lost episode 6.09) Recap and Analysis by Theynameditright
A long time coming, and as many fans have theorized Richard is indeed from the Black Rock, and we have more information on the Black Rock, probably all we will ever get also.
Tuesday’s episode answered Richards back story, and added to the aspects of game play within the show. Man in Black / Smokey, and Jacob were making their play for Richard and Jacob won giving MIB the white rock.
The cork is protecting paradise from US by Madnhud
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Okay, so here's a thought...what if the island isn't a 'cork' to keep Smokey/Evil on the island and away from OUR world, but instead a cork to keep US away from THEM.
Widmore has been on Jacob's side all along by Alejandro Tamargo
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I've been thinking about Widmore's recent arrival on the island and the fact that his team is setting up those anti-Smokey pylons the D.I. used which indicates that he came there with the intent of doing battle with ol' Smokes. I also had to think back to last season when Widmore told Locke that a war was coming, and if he wasn't on the island when it happened that the wrong side was going to win. We can only assume he was referring to the war between light and dark; Jacob and Smokey. I am also making the assumption that the "wrong side" is Smokey, because even though Locke's return is ultimately what allowed Smokey to kill Jacob, I don't think that was what Widmore had intended. Widmore seemed genuinely surprised and confused when Locke told him that he was told by Richard that he needed to die. I think Widmore wanted Locke to return to the island alive, because he knows he's a candidate. But I have to ask then,! how the heck would Widmore know any of this stuff? The upcoming war with Smokey, or the candidates (assuming my assumption is correct and he did indeed know that Locke was a candidate). Ben certainly didn't know anything about any of this stuff. Neither did Richard. So how is Widmore, way far away off the island, privy to this information? I think the answer is simple. Jacob told him. Jacob has been keeping him up to date, and every thing Widmore has done has been under Jacob's instruction.
Theories revolving around Jack Shephard by Joshua S. Smith
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It is believed by some that LOST is an ever circling cycle of dramatic irony.Events tied to others by means of time travel of the main characters and some supporting characters. One such interesting point I have read of recently is that Flashbacks may not be flashbacks at all but flashforwards, and vice versa. Damon Lindeloff and Carlton Cuse may have slightly tipped us off to this in their interview shortly after episode 1 of season 6 in which they made a point that their goal this season is not to have maintaining "alternate realities " (a term by the way they refuse to use to refer to what is currently happening).
I've Said it Before and I'll Say it Again... Time is the Essence of LOST by MeAgain
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So I've written this twice before, and I'm going to do it again. This theory keeps becoming more and more real to me as I watch Lost, and I think it makes more sense than any God/Alien/Jesus crap I've read here before. The island isn't a spaceship, it's not Eden, it's an ISLAND. The thing is, it's sitting in a peculiar spot- whether this spot is a black-hole or exotic matter, I'm not sure. This theory cannot explain what the island is, but rather who it's main inhabitants are. Jacob and MiB have obviously lived on this island for many, many years, and they've gained special traits because of it. I am going to try and prove just what they have become.
The significance of 3 x 6? by Joolesy
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People are debating in these forums over who is good and who is evil on the island. Is it Jacob or the MIB that is good/evil?
Ultimately it seems that this question is irresolvable, simply because of the subjective nature of good and evil. One man's good is another man's evil. I do not believe this question will be resolved by the end of the series due to the multifarious positions any one observer can take with respect to evil.
The Candidate by MHKM
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First, as usual, if anyone has said this before apologies. I know eagles1405 just posted something that touched on what I have been thinking about.
I want to start by questioning what a Candidate is, or what there purpose is. Up until this point I think most people believe a candidate is someone who is eligible to replace Jacob since that is what we have been led to believe by Ilana and others as well.
Magnus Hanso and The Dharma initiative by lboogie
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We heard in the episode that Richard was the property of Magnus Hanso. Isn't Magnus Hanso the same man that started the Dharma initiative?
Dharma. To Hindus, the concept of Dharma means social or religious duty. Buddhists, on the other hand, use the same word to connote the teaching or truth of Buddhism concerning the ultimate order of things. Dharma, to Hindus, is a social and moral obligation. To Buddhists, it is a universal truth into the nature of humans and suffering.
Jacob ~ Hopeful . MIB ~ Cynical by Sugarbomb
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I have been watching lost intently this season hoping not to miss anything and hoping to get the mile long answers to all the questions I have and I guess they all ultimately come back to Jacob and MIB.
Jacob/MIB & Jack/Locke by dunmif
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Has anybody else noticed that Jack/Locke conflict is very similar to Jacob/MIB conflict?
I mean, they both share different vantage points. Jack was a man of science, Locke a man of faith.
Jacob was a man of free will, MIB a man of fate.
Dogen, Richard and the magic dagger by Terramatrix119
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This is my theory why Dogen asked Sayid to kill MiB with the silver dagger.
I think Dogen believed Sayid could kill the Man In Black with the dagger, although I think he also hoped that if he was unsuccessful then MIB would kill Sayid for him. Win-win for Dogen! Or so he thought, as actually neither scenario happened. But the reason why he thought it would work was down to Richard.
Kate & the Valenzetti Equation by YourConstant
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So the whole point of the Dharma Initiative was to create a science team that could solve the Valenzetti Equation and essentially change one of the the core numbers - 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 & 42 - in the equation in order to prevent doomsday from occurring.
Kate's name was not crossed out in Jacob's lighthouse and appeared next to the number 51...is it possible that Kate is the solution to the equation? That by substituting one of the other numbers with 51 the world will be saved, the cork won't come off and everyone will go home happy (except MIB, of course)?
Each of Jacob's possible 6 candidates represent one of the numbers and Locke is number 4, so replacing him makes sense.
MIB's of the island in sideways reality by Carole Anne
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Wouldn't it be interesting if the Locke we see in the sideways reality is MIB who has managed to escape from the island after granting wishes to enough people to get him off.
Illana's Confusion and the Sixth Candidate? by BigChris602
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As a first time theorist, I'll admit there are a couple caveats in which the following could be plausible, but hear me out.. the caveats being:
Time is Running Out - for Everyone by Chris C
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This is my first post of any kind on Lost. I have seen every episode and think this is on the best shows ever created.
Based on the last episode, I feel more questions were raised than answered. But I think they gave away a lot of information for us to digest.
Atlantis Theory Revisited by Vega
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First time poster yada yada yada.
Love this site, love the ideas that bounce around. Everyone seems to be focused on what is currently happening in the recent episodes (and rightfully so) that we have lost sight of a bigger question, what is the island?
Richard will kill the MIB by NYMama
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In "Ab Aeterno," my husband and I noticed that Richard's interactions with the Doctor and the Priest parallel his later interactions with the MIB and Jacob.
Breaking the bottle by Pete
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We have finally seen what the island represents - a cork, a sort of Pandora's box which keeps evil from spreading. Where does this evil come from, why exactly can't it spread with the island in place, how does this island protect the world exactly is not something we really now (though we can guess it has something to do with the special energy sources upon which it rests). We also know now that moving the island does not prevent it's protecting capabilities (if Jacob had a computer, he would probably say the island is a firewall). I guess that things left unsaid regarding the island and its corkness will be answered within five or six episodes. Onto the theory:
We are the good people by chalovk
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I think Jacob's words about not intefering into people's lives are not
necessarily true. Jacob, like MIB, wants to "win" the "game", and he will do anything to prove himself right. Why I'm telling this? Here:
In the end there will be only "hell" by chalovak
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You know, last night episode put some things in its right place, but also it changed the shape of other things.
Oh, God, how I loved all Jacob's words about bottle and cork!
Why smokie/MiB kills/spares people OR Why Eko was killed by smokie by BiSONN from RapBasement
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Smokie can basically see your past, your weaknesses, and how he can exploit them and ultimately manipulate you. This is evident when it manifests itself into Isabella. How else would he know who she is if he didn't have the power to look at Ricardo's past when smokie was "scanning" him?
The children conceived and born on the island gain most, if not all, of its powers. by Pelko187
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Ok, this has probably been posted before but here we go:
The children conceived and born on the island gain its special, semi god-like powers (not aging, ability to revive sick or near-dead people, possibly event to travel in time, etc). These people include Jacob and MiB. The children that were only born, but not conceived on the island are born with limited powers (like Miles and his ability to hear the last thoughts of the dead people).
So why aren't the recent children conceived on the island able to survive no more? Maybe it's somehow done by Jacob (or possibly some yet-unseen force) to prevent things from getting "out of hand", i.e. from more people like MiB being born and possibly escaping the island to wreack havoc with their powers in the outside world.
Also, people who were born outside the island but have had some psychic powers (Hurley and Walt) have these attributes strenghtened when they enter the island.
why jack is the next jacob by shepards son
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this is my theory on why i think jack will be the replacement of jacob, keep in mind this is just a theory and dont know how ay of this will truly play out.
black rock episode leaves more annoying questions by tom brideson
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the long awaited black rock story leaves us with even more questions that supposed answers. my theory will follow this list of questions this episode and really the entire series has given us. you would think that after centuries of the fertility statue
of taweet marking island, or whatever else was its purpose, that the destruction of the statue was what brought about the island not allowing any new births and killing every mother to be. that would have made sense. the statue breaking apart in an hbomb explosion would have made sense, it breaking apart from the modern day release of the smoke monster by the initial bomb explosion way way down into the earth where juliet fell with the bomb could have been the blast that "opened the box" to use pysche ward lennys words( up to that point in 1977 there were no
Ben is already Jacob's replacement by d00p
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This struck me after reading Vozzek69's recap of this episode: There's a possibility Jacob has already chosen his successor and that person is Ben.
Stay with me a moment.
Do you have any idea how badly I wanna kill you ? by Moriarty
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For the last couple of days, I've heard a lot of people talking about that Black Rock arrival scene, and how this might be a continuity error since in The Incident, it was a bright, sunny day, whereas in Ab Aeterno, there's this huge storm.
Some fellow LOST fans said the boat we saw in The Incident was probably not the Black Rock, basically convinced there was no way Darlton could have made that mistake.
The Why Walt was Wet Theory by Jellybean
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Fivestades made a great point on my last theory, the Parallel Plug theory, about Walt appearing wet and talking backwards and asking how this would relate to the plug between alternate universes.
Journal owned by Tovard Hanso a crew member of the Black Rock by Killem Dafoe
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I've heard that a few people have cried fowl over the continuity about the Black Rock ship in the Ab Aeterno. I've heard that it doesn't fit the scene when we are first introduced to Jacob and MIB which is the Incident episode because the weather is sunny. There are a few theories about it that fit the bill. They could just be two different ships or maybe it has to do with the time paradox but I believe that it is the Black Rock but it is before they crashed on the island.
Jacob's Zoo by timeisrelative
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MIB impersonates people. We know that. I think Jacob impersonates animals. I know it sounds silly, but I think it explains a lot and fits nicely into the narrative. Consider the polar bear that cornered Walt, the boar that tormented Sawyer, the horse that mystified Kate, the bird that squawked Hurley's name, and most importantly, Vincent. If you think about it, Vincent has been the catalyst for a lot of significant events usually brought upon by him running off into the jungle. Vincent prompts people to follow him and the unsuspecting Lostie ends up having some sort of interesting encounter. He even brought Hurley a severed arm holding a set of car keys. Plus, Vincent is the perfect spy for Jacob to observe his precious candidates. He can come and go as he pleases with no one being the wiser. He even woke up Jack to kick things off.
Kate is the last candidate by billyjoe3362
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I'll keep this short and to the point.
In Ab Aeterno, we see the end of the conversation between Llana and Jacob. Jacob asks if she would help Jacob, and she agrees. Jacob goes on to tell her there are six people she needs to protect. Obviously he is refering to the candidates.
This gave us a big piece of information, there are ONLY six remaining candidates. Here they are (or so i thought):
There is a Third Person: The Mother by Clone2001
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First, some scenes:
1) Isabela (Ricardo´s wife) appears firt in the ship. She refers to the devil. Isabela says that they are in hell and there is the Devil. The Black Smoke appears, she leaves and then, off sight, she screams. Man in Black appears and tells ricardo that the Devil has got her;
2)Jacob and Ricardo talk on the beach. Ricardo asks where is his wife, he has seen her. Jacob replies: I dont know where is she and that "It was not your wife".
3) Isabela appears to Hugo. She conforts Ricardo and tells him to stop MIB.
Jinn will replace Jacob by Gareth
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Ok...
This assumes Jacob is a 'good' guy and is based upon his conversation to Richard on the beach in Ab Aeterno.
History Repeating by Boo
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For this theory let's go back to Season 5 when the LOSTies determined to return to the island. When Jack and Co. consulted with Eloise Hawking they were told that they had to recreate as much of the circumstances of the initial crash of Oceanic 815 as possible. This included a newly deceased Locke substituting for Jack's Dad, Christian. He was even made to wear Christian's old shoes.
What Hurley meant by "We all go to hell" by madavis4
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So, we got the info last night that the island is a sort of stopper preventing the man in black from getting to the world. We learned from Hurley that, if MIB/Fake Locke gets free, then "we are all going to hell." And we heard a lot of Catholic talk.
What if MIB is not an evil entity but in fact a good one... but a type of good that would lead to hell on earth for humanity? What if MIB is some kind of angel of death sent by God to punish mankind/bring about the apocalypse (a hell on earth if you will) and Jacob is some kind of pro-humanity force who is trying to convince MIB that humanity is worth another shot (but he has been disappointed so far).
Torturer Jacob by Ken Jenkins
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MIB found a way to take on Locke's body or physical appearance, it stands to reason that Jacob is smart enough to figure out how to do that as well. It appears that in order to do it, MIB had to leave his own body/physical appearance behind in order to do it. MIB might say, "Small price to pay, just a vehicle to get "me" off the island." I interpret "leave his own body behind" = died. So the MIB we know is dead, Smokie Locke lives on.
How Widmore and Ben fit into the Jacob/MIB conflict by Radzinski
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In season four, we were made to believe that Lost’s major conflict was being fought between Charles Widmore and Ben Linus, and that the coming war would be fought between them. Seasons 5 and 6, however, changed that.
Ab Aeterno- Recap, Theory, MYSTERIES by ImTheSmokeThing
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Ab Aeterno-Recap,Theory,MYSTERIES
Introductory
I am ImTheSmokeThing I will be posting weekly theories for the remaining episodes of LOST
until its series conclusion on May 23rd. Im 15 years old and live in New Jersey, US.... and if u
dont care about any of this please feel free to skip down to my recap and theory. Please do not
critisize me this is my first time writing a lost recap, but feel free to express your opinions and
it would be cool if u guys could post comments down at the bottom of this page. Ok so lets start.
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Things I noticed
Ok ill cut right to the chase and then i will work my way back from there. HOLY **** (not sure
if im aloud to curse in the theories section) this episode was fantastic for a 46 min whatever long
episode, i realy got to hand it to the people who work on lost. Great story arc for Richard in such
sparing time. Very simple send off for the episode. A look at where we last left off when Jacob was
talking to Illana in the Russian hospital. This episode unlike the previous episodes in season 6
consist of flashbacks instead of "flash sideways." To be precise almost the entire span of the episode
takes place in the past laying out the story of Richard "Ricardos" Alpert. In the hospital Jacob tells
Illana there are only six candidates left and once she has them in her protection Ricardos will know
what to do. On the island Richard explains he knows nothing, he is confused, angry(as ben points out)
and beleives that him and all the other Losties are in hell. Wait... what did he say- hell! NO THEY
ARE NOT IN HELL BUT THIS IS WHAT RICHARD BELEIVES AND THINKS EVERYONE IS
DEAD AND THEY ARE MEANT TO SUFFER ON THE ISLAND... BUT HE IS WRONG! whew
just wanted to clear theat up. from their Richard walks off into the jungle and then.... whooosh flashback
time! If you look at the bottom of the screen it says Richard is from the Cayman Islands, the same year
the black rock supposively whent missing,hmmm. Anyhow Richards wife, Isabella is very sick so Richard
sets out to get her help. The doctor says that the necklace Isabelle gave him for payment is useless. By
accident in an attempt to beg for the doctor's forgiveness the doctor falls and cracks the back of his head on
a table. This scene reminded me alot about when Desmond goes into a rage demanding answers from his
partner in the Dharma initiative A.K.A Sayid's Commanding officer. When desmond learns he was trying to
leave the island and the button was a joke desmond accidentally kills him when he cracks his head on a rock.
OK so when Richard gets back his wife is dead and he is put in jail to be hung the next day. In prison Richard
makes his confession to his father who is a priest, but he says the only way to earn god's forgiveness is through
penance and he doesnt have tome for that. So his father says sorry charlie your going to hell but a man learns
Richard can speak english so he is put on a slave ship.... The Black Rock. Ship gets caught in bad storm and crashes
into the statue(later learning only the foot remained ooooh answers...kinda). When he awakes everyone gets killed
by the black smoke with only Richard surviving after being scanned like Mr. Eko was. By the way I beleive the smoke
monster looked good in this epsiode the only reason why it may have looked grey in other episodes, was prob
do to the fact all the scenes were during the night. Later on it may apear that the island is hell to mislead you
because of the scenes where richard cant reach the water coming through the ceiling of the ship and when he cant
reach the pick the pig knocked out of his hands. Richards sees his wife but as soon as i saw it i knew it was M.I.B
tricking richard. When the man in black comes later he tells richard he has to do something for him, in order to be
set free. Richard agrees and man in black says "nice to see you out of those chains" once again confirming the man
in John Lockes body is him. In the forest Man in black tells Richards if he kills the devil he can leave what he tells
Richard is hell and he will see his wife again. This is a long con(no pun intended) that the Man in Black is using.
As we know the Man in black's goal is to leave the island. Man in black cons Richard in attempt killing Jacob who says
is the devil, so that he can probably kill Richard and leave the island and reak havoc on the outside world. Jacob later tells
Richards he is not in hell and to prove it trys to drown richard which makes him realize he is alive. Jacob explaind to Richard
Man in Black was lying and that the knife he gave Richard( same one Dogen gave to Sayid) was from the man in black. The
funny thing was Man in Black told Richard to stab him before he speaks the same thing Dogan told Sayid to do to man in black.
From what Jacob said about the wine bottle and the island being the cork metaphorically, this is what i beleive to be the conflict,
between Jacob and Man in Black, the islands purpose and why Richard doesnt age which was pretty obvious.
Jacob and Man in Black have been on the island for a long time they are probably brothers and their mother was crazy. Just like
Claire has become(apparently). Jacob may have done something to their mother resulting in her death who Jacob was to blame.
They never age just like Richard. Man in Black is forced to stay on the island as long as Jacob or a candidate for one of Jacobs replacement
is alive. The island is the cork for the whine bottle. It keeps the darkness, bad, etc in so he can not harm the outside world. Jacob is the bottle
he holds Man in Black in but the Island/cork puts on the finishing touches. The isalnd is like a prison to the man in black but it is also his
battleground to kill anyone who may be a candidate for Jacob. Jacob beleives that humans can change and learn from thrmselves, they can
be so much and it is not in their life to sin, they may, but anyone can change an by bringing them to the island they can leave their passed
behind a change their ways. So Jacob brings them to the Island to prove Man in Black wrong because he feels even knowing jacob isn't
physically telling them how to acheive their destiny Man in Black beleives they have no destiny and the island is just an island that he
wants to leave. Jacob offers Richard a job to be his representative so he wont physically interfere with the people he brang. In return
Richard wants his wife, Jacob says sorry cant do that. Richards says then I want to be freed of my sins, Jacob says Ummm No way,
So Richard says that he wants to live forever and that is why he never ages. Ok so in 2007 Richard digs up the cross he buried
and asks if the offer to Man in Black still stands Hurley comes and tells him his wife is right next to him, i beleive this was the
person Hurley was talking to in the beggining of the episode on the beach. Hurley says his wife tells him he has to stop the man in black
from leaving the island or they all go to hell. Flashback AGAIN Jacob and Man in Black have another talk and he tells Jacob he should
not be surprises he tried to kill him with the knife through Richard becaus he wanted to leave the island. He says he will kill every last one
of Jacobs candidates until he lets him leave. Jacob gives Man in Black the bottle of wine and says something to pass the time. This is some
bit of irony because he knows it will be a long time. Jacob says " see you around" and the last words of the episode are "sooner then you think"
the same words he told Richard earlier in the season. Then Man in Black breaks the bottle of wine which is a metaphor for that the darkness
will soon be let out of the bottle, and the cork, which is the island. OK GUYS THANKS FOR READING LEAVE COMMENTS SAYIN WHAT YOU
THOUGHT OF IT. SEE YA!!!!!!! SUPER dou** explamation points!!!!!!
Three Time Lines. LOST ended with The Incident by Malatesta
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The writers talked of ending Season 6 with enough information for fans to piece together what the show was about. They also said that their response to fans wondering about what happened when the bomb exploded was to create two timelines to show both alternatives, and flash sideways.
Playing Devils Advocate with the Flash Sideways by Ben
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There has been much discussion stating that the flashsideways is a result of MIB escaping the island.
Playing Devil’s Advocate, I believe that the flashsideways are a result of MIB being contained on the island.
The 'Cork' and The 'Parallel World' by Matt J. Wooden
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As you may all now know after watching the last episode 'Ab Aeterno' - the island represents a cork, that keeps the 'evil' inside from letting it spread.
MIB has Jacob's body by LongLiveLocke
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I am a first time submitter to the Forum and felt compelled to submit a theory because after reading some of the reviews from the latest episode, I came away with a different take.
After my third viewing today I have temporarily changed my view of MIB versus Jacob. I believe the real MIB is appearing as Jacob. Of course, part of the real genius behind the writing of Lost is the duplicity. I have changed my mind several times regarding MIB and Jacob. Each episode is written so one's point of view that "MIB equals good/bad" or "Jacob equals good/bad" can be substantiated by happenings and dialogue in each episode. Following are some things I noticed/reasons for changing my mind (Once again.)
The good and the bad. Present VS Alt. by Cameo
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Lets look at the 'real on island' timeline. The people who seem to be on Jacobs side are Hurley, Jack, Sun & Ben. The ones who seem to be siding with MIB are Kate, Claire, & Sayid. Jin doesn't seem to be too involved, and Sawyer has his own account.
What Jack Wants by billyjoe3362
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This theory is about the recruitment of the losties by Smokie, and it doesn't answer a ton of questions, but it brings alot of them up, so feel free to comment.
As this season continues to unfold, it seems like everybody is picking sides. Theyre either A. Team jacob or B. Team MIB (NOT team edward).
The Island is a spaceship by DMars
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MIB (Smokey) is an alien, sent on a mission from another planet.
The mission: Go to Earth and figure out if the people on earth are good or bad.
So Smokey rides onto Earth on his spaceship that is disguised as an Island.
Jacob's Morality Lesson to MIB by eagles1405
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I went back and re-listened to a lot of the important dialogue from last night's episode. Here's some interesting quotes, word for word, followed by my theory about what the dialogue reveals:
The Rules of killing MIB/Jacob by Kopczy
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In Ab Aeterno we once again saw one of the "dieties" instructing a castaway to kill the other. The MIB gave Richard a bargain and then a dagger, he instructed Richard to kill Jacob by suprising him, not allowing him to speak before driving the dagger into his heart. If he speaks, it is too late.
The Unraveling Mythos by SayidTheMan123
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As Lost nears its final half of its final season more and more mysteries are being revealed to us, the dedicated viewers. After last nights Richard centric episode, more mysterious were answered for us.
In particular, the mystery of what the statue was and why only a foot is left was pretty much wrapped up last night. This becomes the focus of my theory.
When looking into the history of Taweret it is incredibly interesting to note that she is the goddess that fiercly protects the mother and child at birth.
Now that seems to me to be an odd statue to have on an island that kills mothers and their child in the 2nd trimester.
Interesting?
The MIB is Infected by BriarRose
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So why does Jacob even care what the Monster thinks? Why does he bother to try and show the MIB that humanity has the ability to make the 'right' choices?
Why Widmore wanted Ben dead by sweetpea2720
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I believe that not only did Widmore want Ben dead because he wanted to take "his" island back but because he somehow knew that Ben would be the one that would kill Jacob.
Cain is Able by Jferring
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This season a lot of focus has been placed on the theme of exile. My feeling is that this island was (is) the place of exile for Adam and Eve upon their exit from the garden of Eden.
The two men (MIB and Jacob) are actually Cain (bad guy) and a descendant or candidate passed on from Seth (the 3rd son of Eve). Abel as we know is dead. MIB/Cain represents the evil, the serpent (smokie), and all that poisons man. Seth was a gift to Eve "appointed" to her by God after the death of Abel. Seth is the appointed protector, and according to the Bible, Seth's descedants included Noah (who did a lot of sailing and protected man through the flood).
Life and Death: Eros and Thanatos as Lost Themes by SDeda1us
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"This place is death" - Charlotte
"I want to live" - Ricardo Alpert
"That's the first sensible thing you've said" - Jacob (to Richard)
"Live together, die alone." - Jack Shephard
"The fateful question for the human species seems to me to be whether and to what extent their cultural development will succeed in mastering the disturbance of their communal life by the human instinct of aggression and self destruction..." - Sigmund Freud
ALT Losties are Redeemed in Death part 2 by B3
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This theory hinges on a previous theory of mine, "ALT Losties are Redeemed in Death", although I am far from the only one to theorize that this sideways-timeline could be where the characters end up when they die in the main timeline (as is evidenced by Charlie and Juliet's comments in the premiere). After new knowledge from this episode, I've found a few more potential connections...
MIB is the son of God by desi888
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MIB is the son of god. He is trapped on the island by the devil. Jacob is the devil. Why are we assuming that black is evil & white is good?
If Jacob is good/white why does he promote killing? Why would a good man attack Ricardo/Richard? Notice that as the black rock was approaching the statue the man said it was the devil. Why is Jacob living in the statue of the devil?
Walt is the Candidate by RG
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Let's assume that the ALT is the ultimate resolution of the show.
To contain the MIB, a candidate needs to be in place on the island. But all of the named candidates were on the plane and landed safely in LAX. Sawyer, Jack, Locke, Sun, Jin, Sayid, Hurley--even Kate and Desmond, two other possibilities. And yet there are conspicuous absences of key Season 1 characters on the plane. There are Boone and Charlie, Shannon's absence is explained, Rose and Bernard are there. But no Michael OR Walt. And they were ESSENTIAL to the first two seasons of the show.
Jacob wanted/needed to be killed by Jack Thursby
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This was the prevailing thought until Miles told Ben of Jacob's last thought, that he hoped he was wrong about Ben. However following last night's episode I must conclude that his plan involved dying.
When Richard went to kill Jacob, Jacob quickly attacked and disarmed him, showing he clearly has the ability to have stopped Ben should he have chosen too.
MIB is not the evil of the Island by BrandonG
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I believe that the MIB is not the evil of the Island. He has said that he was once a man and just wants to be free again. I believe that he and Jacob are there to do the same job. Keep the evil contained.
Adam and Eve are....... by Mark
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I’ve been giving some thought to the identities of Adam and Eve and I think I might have a fairly educated guess as to who they might be. If we believe Darlton when they have said that there will be no more time travel in this season it is pretty much impossible for Adam and Eve to be any of our current Losties. Without time travel no one that is currently on the island will be able to die in a time that pre dates the crash and in turn appear as skeletons in the caves when our losties first arrive there…… Well no one except……
Jacob is not what you think by jlafond
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Has anyone theorized that MIB is not the bad guy here. I mean sure he has directly killed people, but isn't that better than indirectly killing people like Jacob does. Jacob brings people to the island they get thrown into the mix and bad things happen. Look at the history of the others, every leader and member swear allegance to Jacob, but they have no problem killing anyone, they do it and don't even feel bad. So far MIB has only killed people that either threatened his life (when he killed all of the people in the statue), or he gave people ample warning to get out of the way (temple killings). Looking back at the history of the show, who has been killed by Smokey, first would have been the Pilot and the second would have been Eko, off hand I can't think of anyone else. The pilot is the only solid hole in my theory, and maybe we can chalk it up to that pilot was never supposed to be on the island "alive" in th! e first place, perhaps if he had lived he might have done something to disrupt the balance, and i think we all agree that this show is all about balance. Which brings us back to Eko, perhaps the island is in fact purgatory or Eden or just a place that seperates the natural and supernatural worlds and in order to pass from one realm to another you have to fufil your journey and die, maybe Eko changed maybe not for the better which is why Smokey killed him. To wrap up this section, how many people died in the name of Jacob, look at Ben, if Jacob was all powerful and knowing and really cared, would Jacob have let Alex die, what about Carl, what about Mr. Friendly, they all speant thier lives in support and service of Jacob and where did that get them.
Theoretical answers to mini-questions... by AnnB627
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After Ab Aeterno, I got thinking about other bits and pieces of LOST that have been aired but never addressed over the past couple of seasons.
Jacob's Cabin - Remember that rickety old cabin in the middle of nowhere, which kept disappearing and reappearing, was surrounded by the line of ash, and hosted who looked to be Christian Shephard?
That could not have been Jacob's cabin at all. It was MIB's cabin. It was a ruse by MIB. Christian's body was inhabited by MIB. He brought Claire there after she left Aaron in the woods. He moved the cabin around at will (as Smokie, he can assume almost any form he wants!). MIB probably used the cabin to lure the candidates.
Sawyer's ALT, Recon (a bit late - I know) and Death by Draven
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Sawyer’s ALT persona, Recons and Death
Hello all! Long time “lurker”, occasional poster and first time theory writer. This theory started off as a few thoughts after Recon and has spiralled out of control ever since. In the past week I have been contemplating whether or not to put it to type but I thought; “hey, might as well – what’s the worst that can happen”.
Smoke monster and MIB by jonno394
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Ok, after watching the most recent episode, Ab Aeterno, the relationship between the Smoke Monster and the MIB has now become a bit confusing. Since the start of season 6, we have now safely assumed that Flocke/MIB is the smoke monster. The character himself has stated this, as did the MIB in Richards Flashback.
Even Evil Incarnate Can't Destroy the World by Cynthia
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So, what if there is no ultimate evil/chaos/destruction at the release of MiB from the island? What if the efforts of Jacob, Widmore, and everyone else who is now going to attempt to keep MiB trapped are pointless? What if he escapes the island and...the world does NOT end in death, destruction and chaos?
Jin is the Candidate by Sephir0th
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Jin is the candidate
- Jin always did what he thought was right, even if it meant beating people up to save their lives. And yes, he let emotion get the best of him when he found that he couldn't have children, thus becoming all bitter with his wife when he probably wouldn't have been if she'd told him the truth (when it was actually Sun that couldn't... and Sun just decided not
to tell him 'til the island, thus leading Jin, and possibly us, thinking he's got super-sperm post-crash-- which leads me to my next point!) (It probably would've helped his initial mood if he wasn't working for her threatening father either.)
Group Effort - it all adds up by Nick
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The title of this theory is Group Effort, as it plays off of a few already mentioned theories that, due to the recent reveals in Richard's past, now seem to pay tribute to each other in tandem. They are puzzle pieces that now fit together and reveal an even deeper truth. So thanks people for the puzzle pieces - you know who you are!
And ladies and gentlemen, have no fear, Jacob is in control!
Black Rock's Arrival.. No Production Errors by uhdum
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Some folks have claimed a possible production error/continuity error with the arrival of the Black Rock, due to seemingly conflicting scenes in "The Incident" and "Ab Aeterno."
The now-famous opening scene of "The Incident" depicts Jacob and the Man in Black observing the arrival of a ship. The seas are calm and it is a bright, sunny day. In "Ab Aeterno," the Black Rock encounters a fierce storm at night, causing massive tital waves to shipwreck it on the island. Some folks are crying "error" because of these two conflicting reports. Several scenarios come to mind, NONE of which result in error on part of the producers.
Symbolism of the bottle of wine by CruzaderJC
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Just a quick theory about why they specifically chose a bottle of wine to symbolize Jacob keeping the Man in Black from being released into the world. So in this episode they refer to the Man in Black as being the wine, the bottle as being the Island, and Jacob as being the cork.
I think the use of wine representing the Man in Black is interesting. We know our main protagonist Jack has had problems with alcohol, and his father too. The central gist of Jacob's plan is to get people to REJECT the temptations of sin/evil and accept good on their own. I think Jack's alcohol addiction was a nice cross-symbolism with the Man in Black being symbolized as wine in a bottle.
PLUS, the very beginning of the series has Jack in the jungle, and the first thing he does when he gets up is look down at the small bottle of alcohol in his pocket. The biggest hint of subtle foreshadowing we've had yet.
Illana is like Mary Magdalene and Richard's eternal life by sweetpea2720
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My theory starts with that just as I think Jacob symbolizes Jesus/God and the Man in Black the devil I think Ilanna symbolizes Mary Magdalene in the story of Lost. I don't know why this only occurred to me now but it did. Now that I think about it when Ilanna goes under the statue and sees that Jacob is gone it is like when Mary Magdalene discovers that Jesus's body is gone. I also see the people that came with Ilanna as Jacob's disciples so to speak and Ilanna is like the female disciple that Mary was.
Bottle in the water, or How I learned to stop worrying and love Jacob by Mr_Friendly
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The recent revelation, the Island is the cork, got me thinking about the Island's movement. If you've ever spent a lazy weekend floating in the pool, chances are you've had a beverage. If that drink was in a bottle with a stopped, you could leave the bottle floating in the pool. The metaphor of the bottle could be seen as a parallel to the Island's movement as well. The dark pocket, as described, might be untethered, so it lazily bobs around like your bottled drink would. The way the 'bottle' moves would result in seismic activity, perhaps only registered on the electromagnetic spectrum, would be read in the outside world on The Lamp Post's giant pendulum. Watching the micro-trends in movement, the Dharma Initiative developed equations that allow them to extrapolate the future position of the Island with some degree of accuracy.
Continuing with the bottle metaphor, the glimpse of the Island at the ocean's bottom could be what we were shown tonight. When the Man in Black shatters the bottle, a section of the neck, containing the cork, flew off and landed elsewhere. So too, the Island is at risk of being cast aside to the depths of the ocean. In this alternative, everyone is granted a reward commensurate to their decisions on the Island. See my earlier theory, the O'Henry Twist (http://theoriesonlost.blogspot.com/2010/03/ohenry-twist-by-mrfriendly.html)
Jack Already Pulled the Cork by BruthaDez
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In episode 9, we were told by Jacob that the island acts as a cork to keep MIB/Smokey/Evil bottled up from the rest of the world. If the island is a cork, Jack/Juliette has already "pulled" it when Jughead was detonated and the island was destroyed. Thus, the ALT reality (which was created with Jughead's detonation) would be the reality in which the cork/island no longer existed and MIB/Smokey/Evil is free to roam.
The Candidates - The "New" Jacob (And Possibly MIB) by Frank The Rocker
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This is my first theory, please be as harsh and critical as possible. I love being tested mentally and this show is a great out-put for this.
This theory is about the Candidates of Jacob, who the "New Jacob" might be, and how it might occur. It involves things which from my perspective seem to be deductive reasoning.
Thoughts after tonight's episode by mkdrumhead
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Wow. Tonight's episode detailing Richard's past was awesome! It really seemed like a higher level of storytelling, even for Lost. So here's a few ideas/questions I have about the show:
Uncorking Season 6 Episode 9 "Ab Aeterno " by Mos Jef
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This is a world record. Congratulations, Lost. You now have recorded the most “deaths of a loved one” and “last goodbyes with the words I love you&#