This is in response to Joe D.'s theory "Shepherd's have history on the island."
If his theory is correct, which I recommend reading, then this would have further implications on the future. Here's a quick timeline: Ray comes to the island via BlackRock. Ray has a son named Christian, on the island. Ray is banished from the island and Christian leaves with him. Christian has a son named Jack. Christian misses the island and flies around looking for it. Christian has a daughter, Claire. Claire and Jack crash on the island.
Now for the part that ties everything in...
Eloise says for the O6 to get back they must recreate the events of the old flight on flight 316. What if flight 815 was actually recreating the events of the past of the Black Rock? What if Claire and Jack are the secret to finding the island? The island gives off energy. You gain that energy the longer you live there as seen by the nosebleeds by Charlotte, Miles, and Juliette.
I am claiming that people that live on the island and are born from people on the island have an energy ingrained into them that allows them to find the island. Jack and Claire are blood related, Christian's side, which would have given them enough magnetism to bring 815 to the island. Why did Widmore need Charlotte, an archeologist? He didn't need Charlotte the archeaologist; he needed Charlotte and the magnetism that was given to her. It is the same story with Faraday and Miles. They have the magnetism that helped Widmore find the island. What did Christian's shoes have to do with anything? To me they added no value in finding the island. They were needed because Jack needed to believe.
Jack and Claire were the reason for 815 to find the island because they were born by Christian who was the son of Ray. The magnetism is passed to them and through another. If this theory is true, Aaron will have this magnetism. Ji Yeon will have this magnetism. I predict if this is correct that Lost will end the same way Jacob and MIB held their conversation on the beach. It always ends the same they come, they fight, etc. etc. But we will see Aaron and Ji Yeon crashing on the island, older and naive to the situation as Jack and Claire were.
Like Father Like Son: many have suggested that evidence that Christian has been to the island before is Christian's drinking habits which are paralleled by Jack. Ray also claims that they'll never find him if he is able to escape which I thought was a clear indicator that he'll be back in S6.
Apparently, if this is also correct, you cannot find the island through one magnetic source. You need at least two strong energy sources to find the island.
Tear it apart. There is more counter-evidence than evidence, but I hope its something different. Thanks Joe D. for the help.
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Interesting theory. I like the bit about Widmore specifically hiring Miles and Charlotte for the mission because he knew they could 'return' to the Island due to their being born there. It could also tie into the modern-day Island being uninhabitable to pregnant women --- perhaps as a manifestation of the Island's defense mechanisms and desire to stay hidden, it isn't allowing any more of these baby/homing devices to be born on its shores.
I'm just trying to figure out why the new trend in (insert random character name here) came on the blackrock, theories are popping up now. They're like the new; (insert random character name here) is really Jacob theories.
I think that if any character came to the island on the blackrock it's safe to say it is Richard, and maybe someone in the Temple but I think just Richard, but I also reserve the other option of none of the characters came to the island on the blackrock.
Ofcourse you need more than one "source of magnetism" to find the island.... What did sayeed teach us about trianglation in S1, while looking for the radio tower? :-)
Ricky, the reason why theories are popping up about people coming on the Black Rock is probably because everyone feels like we are going to get the story of the Black Rock this season as foreshadowed in the opening scene of The Incident. It's similar to the Jacob theories that you pointed out popping up during season 4 when we start hearing a lot about him. My theory had more to do with the Shephards' history with the island. I've been thinking since season five that Richard came to the island on The Black Rock. I came up with the theory that Christian and his father came because I really don't think that RIchard will be the only character from the Black Rock. I think that when they tell that story we will see at two or three characters that we already know coming to the island via the big ship.
and it wasn't a case of "insert random character name here" when I came up with Christian coming via Black Rock. It came to me after thinking about Christian's parallel's to Jack...the drinking, the seeming death wish, Ray's distaste for life on the mainland, etc.
As a means of finding the island this might be a great theory. Good thinking.
I'm sorry if you were kinda insulted by my comments I didn't mean that I really just wanted to know the thought process behind this phenomenon of (Blank) came on the BlackRock, thats all, in fact I actually think it would be kinda cool if we see Faraday beboppin' out of the BlackRock with his Journal, and introducing himself as the firstmate, considering that the BlackRock Journal mystery was spawned in the same episode as the Daniel Journal was; The Constant it would be fitting, and also Richard being on the BlackRock would also be fitting, in fact if he's not from the BlackRock it will be a huge WTF moment for me!
But as for any other character that we have met previously, I have my doubts, To me it just wouldn't fit for Christian, Ray or any other character, to be on the BlackRock, in fact it would bring more questions than answers.
If Richard walked off the BlackRock we would all think OK Mystery solved, now to find out how he came to be ageless, if Faraday walked off for a moment we'd be like WTF, then we'd immediately think he probably time-traveled, and it would be a nice bookend for the constant. Hell I just thought of one more person who would be a believable BlackRockie: Desmond, we know nothing of his life before the the monastery, except from his slight comments, but again too convoluted to work probably, but definitely interesting to see.
Anyway I've rambled on now, my main goal was to sorta apologize if I offended you, So I'm sorry for that if that happened.
here i thought desmond's foil was what brought the plane to the island. that and the fact that the pilots were a few hundred or thousand miles off course. but if you say it's some magical magnetism then that's cool too. it's probably just a coincidence that the very time Widmore finally finds the island, after searching for twenty years, is after the looking glass is destroyed therefore rendering the very mechanism which scatters scanning signals to find the island off into different directions essentially keeping hte island "hidden". it's probably the magnetic dna, you're right.
Not for nothing, but Jack's grandfather would be way too young to have been on the Blackrock. So far the only ageless people that we know of are Richard and Jacob. MIB may be nothing more than a spirit looking for a body as opposed to an ageless being. I like the idea behind the theory, but not the Blackrock bringing Jack's family to the island starting with Ray.
I agree with your theory, that the Shepherd family history is entwined with that of the island. Some things I expect/hope to discover next season are:
- Christian has been on the island before.
- Ray wants to escape the retirement home and return to the island.
- Aaron will return to the island, just like Miles, Charlotte and Daniel did.
- Richard is from the Black Rock. (If this turns out to be false, then why have the whole Richard building a ship in a bottle scene??? and please don't say it was a red herring, hahaha!
I also like the thought that someone was trying to recreate the events of the Black Rock with flight 815, but I don't really believe it's true. Why wait 150 years to try and return to the island? I think that flight 316 had to recreate flight 815 because they weren't SUPPOSED to leave and were now having to force it to happen again.
By the way... it was a great read!
I agree that the Shepherd family has a big role to play in Lost, including Grandpa Ray. I'm just not sure we will see him on the Black Rock. Maybe he's just an other that left the island like Elle for some unknown reason and his offspring have been being nudged back to the Island. I like the magnetism idea too.
Yeah I'm just waiting to hear that Ray is going to be appearing in Season 6 again. I think the Shepherds do have history on the island, whether it be Christian, Ray, or someone else like Jacob (if he is Aaron).
I also liked the idea of 815 was re-creating the events of the Black Rock. Someone had a theory a while ago that the opening scene of season 6 will be the Black Rock crashing on the island, and Richard's eye opening in the jungle, then proceeding to save everyone (like Jack and the plane). I hope they do the Black Rock thing the same way they did "The other 48 days" with the tail section of the plane.